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Good solution for displaying Composite image on VGA monitor?
Re: Good solution for displaying Composite image on VGA monitor?
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Re: Good solution for displaying Composite image on VGA monitor?
Maybe I miss read the OP's thread but isn't it a question about how to get composite to VGA and not whether or not LCD or CRT are better or to get a CRT TV. I have a CRT TV but also a very nice CRT vga input only moniter so I would also like to know if there are other options instead of an upscaler. That link he posted looks promising and being pal/ntsc compatible would be cool if it lets me play pal systems on my moniter..CRTGAMER wrote:Any CRT with S-Video and or Component (for PS2). Cheap at thrift stores or Craigs list.
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Re: Good solution for displaying Composite image on VGA monitor?
Just a note that the SNES mini does not do s-video out. But as long as you have a big one you can use the same s-video cable for the SNES, N64, and a GC if desired.
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Re: Good solution for displaying Composite image on VGA monitor?
Just another inexpensive option. To go from a Retro console to VGA with maybe great results is too expensive. A CRT TV that has S-Video inputs have a nice image. PS2 with Component looks great at 480p to TV. It would be a lot better then trying to adapt composite to VGA.pepharytheworm wrote:Maybe I miss read the OP's thread but isn't it a question about how to get composite to VGA and not whether or not LCD or CRT are better or to get a CRT TV. I have a CRT TV but also a very nice CRT vga input only moniter so I would also like to know if there are other options instead of an upscaler. That link he posted looks promising and being pal/ntsc compatible would be cool if it lets me play pal systems on my moniter..CRTGAMER wrote:Any CRT with S-Video and or Component (for PS2). Cheap at thrift stores or Craigs list.
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Re: Good solution for displaying Composite image on VGA monitor?
Are you sure that the up converter I linked to is so insufficient, though? The fact that it boasts the ability to de-interlace makes me feel like it will probably do what I want it to, unless you can give me some solid reason why you think it wouldn't. I appreciate the advice on picking up a CRT, but after checking Craigslist and eBay (and having a general knowledge of what Nashville thrift stores tend to carry), I seriously doubt I'll be coming across a deal anytime soon. Space is also a big issue for me, and since I know I'm not getting rid of my VGA LCD monitor, it would definitely be optimum for me to figure out a way to display component video on it with non-gross results. I understand that the best upscalers won't come cheap, but are you guys sure that the one I linked to won't suffice?
Re: Good solution for displaying Composite image on VGA monitor?
A HDMI upconverting dvd recorder will work well if the moniter has hdmi or dvi if just vga you will need a converter for hdmi/dvi to vga
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Re: Good solution for displaying Composite image on VGA monitor?
$85 for a 36 inch HDTV (4:3 Aspect Ratio) Sony Trinitron:Original_Name wrote:I appreciate the advice on picking up a CRT, but after checking Craigslist and eBay (and having a general knowledge of what Nashville thrift stores tend to carry), I seriously doubt I'll be coming across a deal anytime soon.
http://nashville.craigslist.org/ele/1904704485.html
$75 for a 36 inch SDTV Sony Trinitron
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$50 for a 27 inch SDTV Sony Trinitron:
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$25 for a 20 inch SDTV Sony Trinitron set:
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Trinitrons are the only SDTV's you should even be thinking about going for. They're good sturdy sets for everyday TV viewing, but and are also reference/videophile grade in the picture department when using direct input components with good cables like S-Video and Component.
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Re: Good solution for displaying Composite image on VGA monitor?
The main reason we're all steering you away from it is that you'll never ever get a clear and good picture like what you want out of a cheapo little $50 box.Original_Name wrote:Are you sure that the up converter I linked to is so insufficient, though? The fact that it boasts the ability to de-interlace makes me feel like it will probably do what I want it to, unless you can give me some solid reason why you think it wouldn't.
In the hi-fi video world more money means better picture, especially with analog. Your video quality won't be any better than the weakest link in the chain meaning that if you're using Composite or S-Video it's still only going to be composite or S-video quality PERIOD. This will just blow up all of the defects and garbage that appears when using a signal such as Composite and S-video which are not designed to be used with a VGA monitor, upconverted or screwed with in any way whatsoever. You'll never get the same image as looking at a native resolution SDTV CRT on anything but an SDTV CRT, period. I know as I tried for the longest time to find something comparative and just ended up wasting cash on crappy VGA boxes and other wortheless doodads.
What this box will attempt to do is simply take a picture of each frame as it comes in at the resolution it's set to output and spit it onto the screen as such. REAL upscalers literally rip apart the image at the pixel level and reproduce each frame as accurately as possible at the native resolution of your monitor itself.
You said you have a nice newer VGA monitor, therefore it's more than likely a higher resolution monitor. If the resolutions this thing outputs at aren't your native resolution (more than likely) get ready for EXTRA blur and lag to be added into your signal's chain making for what will ultimately be a blurry shitty mess in the end. If you have a CRT monitor then it MIGHT be better but will ultimately more than likely be just as bad.
Also, a lot of the words described on the site you linked are all marketing bullshit. All VGA boxes de-interlace, all of them upconvert to some extent, all of them work with anything you'll throw into them and NONE of them look good whatsoever.
Upconversion boxes on the other hand are a completely different beast and will give you a pixel perfect or near pixel perfect image to that of a CRT minus scanlines and a few other unique CRT quirks. The only problem is that these are NOT typically cheap and rightfully so as they do what they're designed to very well. I've wanted an X-RGB 2 or 3 for a long time and am saving up ever since seeing one in action. It's a slick device that gives you a smooth sharp clear picture if you really want something to look 95% as good as an old SDTV. If in the end you're completely hell bent on not getting a CRT set save up and go the X-RGB route instead of cheaper VGA boxes.
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