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Re: Got a new TV a couple days ago - good choice?

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jfrost wrote:60Hz seems like a pretty poor refresh rate.
60hz is the industry standard and what your PS3, Blu-Rays, DVD's and other stuff output at.

What you are thinking about is RESPONSE TIME the lower the response time the less motion blur and the quicker the response to movement on screen between inputs such as controllers and consoles to the TV itself and your eyes by extension.

The REFRESH RATE is what they mean when you hear 15hz, 30hz, 60hz, 120hz or 600hz. The refresh rate controls the flicker rate of the set which is the amount of time any particular frame will stay on screen.

The more frames the better, BUT only when you have content recorded in that refresh rate. There are also problems with each and every single 120hz TV out there right now. Mainly that there's an annoying freaking afterimage as objects travel along the screen. This isn't caused by a defect in the screen but due to an optical illusion caused by our brains. Our eyes see the world in 120hz therefore seeing artificial 120hz or false 120hz where a 60hz display is doubled twice will cause a disorientating "double vision" effect.

The only TV's you should even consider buying should be either either 60hz or 600hz otherwise you'll just want to puke from how dizzy you'll get.
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Mod_Man_Extreme wrote: The more frames the better, BUT only when you have content recorded in that refresh rate. There are also problems with each and every single 120hz TV out there right now. Mainly that there's an annoying freaking afterimage as objects travel along the screen. This isn't caused by a defect in the screen but due to an optical illusion caused by our brains. Our eyes see the world in 120hz therefore seeing artificial 120hz or false 120hz where a 60hz display is doubled twice will cause a disorientating "double vision" effect.

The only TV's you should even consider buying should be either either 60hz or 600hz otherwise you'll just want to puke from how dizzy you'll get.
My Plasma is my gaming tv, but my main tv is a 200hz motionflow Sony LCD (240hz for ntsc) and the motionflow mode is a bit of a waste of time so I mostly leave it off for the reasons mod_man_extreme has noted. The only time that I noticed an improvment from motionflow was watching ice hockey during the winter olympics but that's really about it. 60hz is fine if not better in most cases.
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Re: Got a new TV a couple days ago - good choice?

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Mod_Man_Extreme wrote:
jfrost wrote:60Hz seems like a pretty poor refresh rate.
60hz is the industry standard and what your PS3, Blu-Rays, DVD's and other stuff output at.

What you are thinking about is RESPONSE TIME the lower the response time the less motion blur and the quicker the response to movement on screen between inputs such as controllers and consoles to the TV itself and your eyes by extension.

The REFRESH RATE is what they mean when you hear 15hz, 30hz, 60hz, 120hz or 600hz. The refresh rate controls the flicker rate of the set which is the amount of time any particular frame will stay on screen.

The more frames the better, BUT only when you have content recorded in that refresh rate. There are also problems with each and every single 120hz TV out there right now. Mainly that there's an annoying freaking afterimage as objects travel along the screen. This isn't caused by a defect in the screen but due to an optical illusion caused by our brains. Our eyes see the world in 120hz therefore seeing artificial 120hz or false 120hz where a 60hz display is doubled twice will cause a disorientating "double vision" effect.

The only TV's you should even consider buying should be either either 60hz or 600hz otherwise you'll just want to puke from how dizzy you'll get.
Hmm. I didn't know that, thanks.
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I would be nice to have a guide on buying a new tv for old school gamers like us. Things we need to know before buying.
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If you're really an old school gamer, the best advice is to avoid HD. HD CRTs are better than plasma or LCD, as they have two native resolutions (usually 480p and the max resolution, typically 1080i), but any amount of upscaling done improperly (99% of televisions) will result in lessened image quality. 480i to 480p isn't huge, but 240i to 480p is a little more dramatic. Not to mention, HD CRTs will not work with light guns.

That said, because of the dual resolution, HD CRTs are wonderful televisions for 480p+ systems, like Dreamcast, Gamecube, and onwards (except PS2 - only a very small handful of PS2 games support 480p). CRT still has unmatched black levels, so for gaming the only television that could outperform a 34XBR960, because of its much bigger size and extremely high quality picture, is the Pioneer Elite Kuro Plasma series, which are extremely expensive and, like CRTs, discontinued. And even then you're looking at something like XRGB to scale older systems.

I've always said the best option, though not the most convenient, is to have two monitors. Get the big, 1080p Plasma for modern systems and movies, and get a nice SD 27" CRT for older systems and light guns. A computer monitor is nice too for VGA and TATE screens (FW900 is beastly at 90lbs, but at 24" it's a beaut), but you get the picture. :)
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Gnashvar wrote:I would be nice to have a guide on buying a new tv for old school gamers like us. Things we need to know before buying.
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