Dreamcast VGA disappointing? Mini review.

[Spellsong]

One of the worst things you can do to me, is amuse who I am and my motives. That really hurts.

That is just ridiculous. It was an opinion from my point of view. I'm not even trolling, as I'm not that type of person to do such messed up things, and why in the hell would I flame bait? I had a bad feeling about posting this, and I should have listened to my intuition. I wish someone can close the topic already. With the Two LCDs I tried it on, it can be due to the scaler, but its not even a big TV. 22" Its just I wasted so much money on these things related to input lately, and I am not getting what I really expect. It sounds snobbish, but its not that way, and I'm not even a snobbish person by any means. I already understand other people have a different experience than I, and I find that everyone is the same around here. So I'm done with this topic, and this is my last time I even come here! UGH!!

[Reprise]

I wasn't caling you snobbish. In case that's what you you thought.
And I wasn't being overly serious with my post either. But generally, I was agreeing with you. I can quite easily live without the VGA. In fact, I DO live without it

Eventually, I will most likely get one. Once I have a bit more money and a fulltime job. But I've never understood what the huge fuss is about video output. Frankly I lived for years with just an RF adapter just fine

Edit: Maybe it depends on the size of your TV though. I can see why someone with a 32'' + sized TV might like it a lot. I only have a 28'' TV though and most of the time my Dreamcast is plugged into my small 14''.

[SGGG2]

People are jumping on you because the VGA signal from the DC is top notch. Personally, I could never go back. The only game I've seen that looks "worse" over VGA is Soul Calibur. If you're after trancoders/scalers the XRGB-3 paired with a Xselect-D4 is as good as it gets for retro games. The HD Box Pro gets the job done if you're on a budget. Check out Fudoh's website for details http://retrogaming.hazard-city.de/

I wouldn't take any of this personally.

[CRTGAMER]

Spellsong, did you compare the various signals on your VGA input HD?

From my CRT vs LCD signature link below:

Resolution limited to 480i and below
RF - Don't bother unless you play games with eyes closed.
Composite - lot of color bleeding and blur.
S-Video - clean images.

Resolution can go 480p up to 1080P
Component - Analog Image resolution up
DVI and HDMI - Best image being all digital

VGA - Unique to Dreamcast Analog 640x480 Similar to 480p

LCD as mentioned earlier does the Dot Crawl dance.

[CRTGAMER]

Too hard to resist flame baits for me.

Not any help from this.

Spellsong, did you compare the various signals on your VGA input HD?
Take a few maybe read the CRT vs LCD signature link below, Cast your vote.

Excerpt from the link below:

Resolution limited to 480i and below
RF - Don't bother unless you play games with eyes closed.
Composite - lot of color bleeding and blur.
S-Video - clean images.

Resolution can go 480p up to 1080P
Component - Analog Image resolution up
DVI and HDMI - Best image being all digital

VGA - Unique to Dreamcast Analog 640x480 Similar to 480p

http://www.practical-home-theater-guide.com/lcd-response-time.html

In contrast to LCD displays, plasma televisions and CRT TVs have a virtually instantaneous response time.

This is mainly limited by the speed of their video processing engine rather than by the time it takes to fire the display phosphor; this is in the order of nano-seconds as against the milliseconds required for the liquid crystals to change state in LCD panels. In this respect, LCD panels still have a long way to go.

Yet, there is a further technical difference between the two technologies that renders plasma superior when it comes to pixel response time. Control of pixel intensity in a plasma display does not rely on the same drive process used in an LCD panel. In an LCD display, a minor adjustment in pixel intensity level is brought about by altering the drive signal in very small steps to adjust the twisting action of the liquid crystals, and which in turn controls the amount of light reaching the surface.

[Hobie-wan]

As mentioned, it's probably the scaling that's not good on the LCD or isn't set optimally. The VGA will be 640x480 out of the dreamcast. The native resolution of a lot of 4:3 monitors is 1280x1024. If the DC picture were exactly doubled it would be 1280x960 which doesn't match. If the screen is doing a crappy job it might just double every 10th line vertically or something which will look like crap instead of blending it with the stretch. Maybe see if there's an option in the menu with different scaling/stretching/blending options.

[Droid party]

Haha such snobbery

Indubitably.

Sorry op, just sharing my opinion which in this case is snobby disbelief.

[MitsuoExcel]

Sorry to change the topic but is VGA really that big of a improvement? I'm still using a CRT TV (15" w/ RF).

[Hobie-wan]

Sorry to change the topic but is VGA really that big of a improvement? I'm still using a CRT TV (15" w/ RF).

RF looks like garbage compared to VGA. even if you're only playing on a 15 inch TV. Even if you don't have the ability buy stuff and use VGA or s-video (which would look nearly as good on a 15) you should at least try to use composite if your TV accepts it. You should be able to find a cheap or free TV that accepts at least composite even if you have to stick with something small due to space since lots of people are getting rid of older CRTs.

[d123456]

It is a big difference in picture quality. please do not try it on lcd pc monitors because they might have a bad upscaler. try it on a crt pc monitor or hd tv (and hopefully a good upscaler) and most likely you´ll be like: wwwoww!