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Posted: **Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:28 am**

metaleggman wrote:
Jubal wrote:
metaleggman wrote:eh, those multi console things suck. Tbh, just get an A/V Receiver with nice quality ADCs and DACs. If you need me to explain, plz ask. 8)

I appreciate the offer and ill take you up on it! what the heck are ADCs and DACs?

thanks!
-Jubal-
well, ADCs and DACs are 'Analog to Digital Converters' and 'Digital to Analog Converters'. The reason you want to get an A/V Receiver instead of a switch box from gamestop, is because in almost every case, the A/V receiver will have 10 times better ones. Now the reason why having good ones is important is because every time you convert something from analog to digital or digital to analog, it messes with the quality of the signal a bit or sometimes a lot. This, including the a/v receiver, is how it would work:
console(D>A)--cable--A/V receiver(A>D)--outgoing signals(D>A)--cable--TV(A>D)

So that is alot of conversions BUT the difference in this case is that the onkyo has very high quality DACs and ADCs, while your 50 dollar switch box from gamestop has them at at least half the quality.

make good sense, and I have heard that Onkyo is great quality. it does make me wonder tho, are there digital video cables? I have heard of the TOS digital Audio cables... seems like it would be easier if you didnt have to convert it.

metaleggman wrote:But, ya, it doesn't have all that many, which sucks, as that's about all ur gonna get in that price range. Now, if you wanna make the stretch, you could get something like this:
http://reviews.cnet.com/Onkyo_TX_SR604_ ... ml?tag=nav

That has a whole ream of connections, but is more than twice as much... :?

looks like the Onkyo TX-SR674 converts analog video sources to the HDMI output, yet has less over all inputs.

metaleggman wrote:So, you may just save up for that one and get it to start your conversion to HD, as inexpensive yet great SEDs should be coming out in 2008, with inexpensive but great (but not as great as SEDs) LCDs getting cheaper and cheaper as the days go by. Everyone is swearing by CRTs, well, SEDs have those sets stopped in their tracks. except the delays, that is...

the SEDs looks great, and if they actually do have a lower price point then its an easy choice, bet it will take a little while to get the lower price point, even if they do cost less to manufacture.

metaleggman wrote:so those are your options. If you don't want to always go behind your TV everytime to switch stuff, one possibility is getting extension cables and plugging it into the TV, then using the extension cable to plug the systems into.

hope that helps, even in the slightest! :)

and to be honest, this is what I will probably be doing for a while longer heh
the info is much appreciated =)

-Jubal-

Posted: **Tue Jan 16, 2007 2:03 am**

ya, HDMI is a digital video signal, along with DVI-D. See, one of the things about newer HDTVs is that since many use HDMI as one of the source inputs, you can use a A/V receiver that upconverts everything to at least 480p and send it over via one HDMI cable, which is great and reduces all those ADCs and DACs. Plus, with things like the PS3, BD Players, and HDDVD Players, you have no DACs or ADCs whatsoever since you can use HDMI for all of them! It's spectacular. I just with Messiah realized that HDMI would be the best output for the NEX, aside from composite, since you can take the video info straight from the PPU, de-interlace it, then send it over digital so there are no DACs or ADCs meaning a boost in quality, I would think anyways. It would be worth the money, imo.

Posted: **Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:03 am**

Get a Pelican System Selector Pro. It has 8 inputs for consoles, each with composite, component, and s-video. Plug the consoles into that and then run the line to the TV.

Posted: **Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:19 am**

Gentlegamer wrote:Get a Pelican System Selector Pro. It has 8 inputs for consoles, each with composite, component, and s-video. Plug the consoles into that and then run the line to the TV.

I am weary of a lot of those things as they may degrade to video quality if they aren't built well.

Posted: **Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:05 pm**

racketboy wrote:
Gentlegamer wrote:Get a Pelican System Selector Pro. It has 8 inputs for consoles, each with composite, component, and s-video. Plug the consoles into that and then run the line to the TV.

I am weary of a lot of those things as they may degrade to video quality if they aren't built well.

yep. As I said in my previous posts, pelican, gamestop, etc are known to cheap out on the ADCs and DACs on those 'game selectors', which is why you should only use it if you have a really really bad TV.

Posted: **Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:50 pm**

Psyclone makes an awesome powered system selector. 100 but well work it.

Posted: **Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:06 pm**

Cerulean wrote:Psyclone makes an awesome powered system selector. 100 but well work it.

oh, so it's a hundred bucks? nvm then, that actually could be pretty good. You have their PS2 component cables? The ones I have are total garbage.

Posted: **Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:30 pm**

IMHO, Forget about these system selectors and buy an A/V receiver for a couple hundred more.

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Universal multi console AV cables, any experince?