NFL 2014 Thread

[mjmjr25]

A repeat offender of...smoking weed Let's not compare smoking to beating your kids in "the whooping room".

The main problem with your statement is "tends" and "usually". That's the problem and why for once jvalentine is right; there is no consistency the way teams or the NFL handle suspensions.

There are plenty of players who've been accused of less and have been suspended or outright cut, including by these very Vikings, unfortunately for them, none of them run with a ball like Adrian Peterson.

[jvalentine98]

We will stick to the facts here. AP has another son, by another woman, and she also reported him to Child Services for his beating on another son. He wasn't arrested, but it is documented by the state.

I'm not for legalizing drugs or anything, but there is a clear and unmistakable difference between getting high and harming a child, especially your own child.

Plenty of people have drug problems. Most of them aren't violent. AP obviously has issues with his children. Doesn't mean he would harm another child, but he has done so on 2 occasions that we know of. I'm sure, through my own life experiences, there are multiple other incidents not reported...these things usually build up to a point where they are reported. Like your wife may not call the cops the first time you hit her, but eventually she does, because you keep doing it. I think we have to keep this in perspective, which obviously the NFL doesn't want to have one of its signature players labeled a child abuser, but their reluctance to punish him is telling.

As for repeat offender, do we really need a repeat child abuser? If you get high...then you got high and sobered up. No one was physically harmed...I think the ultimate lesson to learn here is not only did a 4 year old get an uncalled for beating, he won't forget that type of behavior. He's liable to repeat it down the road.

[jvalentine98]

It's also interesting to mention the guy who killed his teammate in Dallas, can't remember their names, got less than Gordon was originally handed down. Yep, he was drunk and drove him to his death and he will ultimately serve no more than Gordon.

Now you tell me would you lose your job for killing a coworker in a DUI incident? The CEO of Best Buy just lost his job for sleeping with a fellow employee. No death involved.

[Jmustang1968]

A repeat offender of...smoking weed Let's not compare smoking to beating your kids in "the whooping room".

The main problem with your statement is "tends" and "usually". That's the problem and why for once jvalentine is right; there is no consistency the way teams or the NFL handle suspensions.

There are plenty of players who've been accused of less and have been suspended or outright cut, including by these very Vikings, unfortunately for them, none of them run with a ball like Adrian Peterson.

NFL has(had) strict policies in place for substance offenses. So those are easy to follow as they have clear guidelines and are in the CBA. The NFL self administers substance issues as they conduct the testing.

Off field behavior and legal issues are another matter as every case is unique. The NFL tries to respond to the decisions of the legal system. They try to weigh the amount of evidence, criminal conviction, past offenses (if any), etc... These are more judgement calls.

I say tends to and usually because in some cases, even a first time offense levies a hefty response. AP may get a suspension, but they are letting the legal system play out first which is par for the course. Jumping on the AP is off the hook bandwagon is premature.

NFL discipline and team discipline are different and mostly independent. A team chooses to cut the player or not while the NFL levies suspensions. Obviously a problem player who isnt a starter or very productive will have a shorter leash with a team. The NFL hands out suspensions regardless of talent. You think the NFL wanted to suspend the leading receiver last season for the entire season? They arent necessarily reluctant to punishing AP, they just arent in a position yet to pass judgement.

I am not defending the NFL so much as explaining it. I dont think the NFL should care as much if guys smoke weed, but mainly should test for PEDs. I am actually pro legalization of it.

And the thing with Best Buy has no relevance to this discussion.

[stickem]

Just to clarify gordon didn't get his last suspension for weed. He blew a 0.09. That's tough.

[Jmustang1968]

Just to clarify gordon didn't get his last suspension for weed. He blew a 0.09. That's tough.

Nah it was for weed.

[stickem]

And dam how many different kids does AP have with different woman? This last claim is the 3rd.

[stickem]

Just to clarify gordon didn't get his last suspension for weed. He blew a 0.09. That's tough.

Nah it was for weed.

Dam i thought he had that dui or was it bundled in lol?

[stickem]

It's also interesting to mention the guy who killed his teammate in Dallas, can't remember their names, got less than Gordon was originally handed down. Yep, he was drunk and drove him to his death and he will ultimately serve no more than Gordon.

Now you tell me would you lose your job for killing a coworker in a DUI incident? The CEO of Best Buy just lost his job for sleeping with a fellow employee. No death involved.

It's joshh brent. And his suspension is 10 games

[retrosportsgamer]

And dam how many different kids does AP have with different woman? This last claim is the 3rd.

I believe he has 9 with 8 different women.