WELL THIS IS INTERESTING.. Retron 5

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ExedExes wrote:If time permits, I will also try the R5 controller on some of my other SNES shmups (Axelay, Hyperzone, Gradius III, Darius Twin, Super Nova, UN Squadron)

Even when I finally get it, I will continue to monitor their Facebook and forums for any further developments with firmware/pre-orders/etc. I want everyone on RB who got one not to lose hope.
Awesome! Thanks. I really do appreciate (as I'm sure others do as well) all the updates.

I hope you get around to testing Axelay. I bought that game last year, and I tried to play it but the only way I can play it is on my SupaBoy (which is, ironically, by Hyperkin) and the directional pad on it SUCKS. So after many frustrating attempts I gave up on it and can't wait to retry it on the RetroN. It tops my list of games to play first.
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My Retron 5 has arrived! It's a bit late tonight to get it set up, but tomorrow I'll see what I can do.
TheSegaSaturnGuy wrote:Has anyone who preordered from VGMX heard anything about their preorder? I am still in the "Awaiting Fulfillment" status. :(
Yes, I have a VGMX update from a Facebook user on Hyperkin's page -

I pre-ordered a gray Retron 5 from VGMX.com on October 30, 2013. With the release on June 6th, I was pretty excited about receiving my console finally. I called VGMX today to check on the order and they told me they were sent 8 - Yep, 8 - Retron 5s. There's supposed to be another big shipment from Hyperkin in "early July" (I couldn't get any further detail than that) so I get to wait until mid-July... at least.

Looks like those who ordered there might have to wait a bit longer.

It's funny how sad their communication has been... people are now resorting to cracking jokes and asking where the black Retrons are on the E3 pictures they're posting.

For all this trouble, it better work flawlessly.
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ExedExes wrote:
For all this trouble, it better work flawlessly.
What trouble? You ordered a specialty product with a TBD due date that you knew would allow for updates to firmware after it was released. So "working flawlessly" shouldn't really be an expectation. You also got it the week it was released to the public, so congrats on that!

I don't AT ALL get the hate for Hyperkin in this thread or elsewhere. Most companies who make hardware have to constantly shift their street dates and often have limited numbers (or only certain colors) at launch. Hyperkin, which is a small group of folks, has had the same thing happen with the Retron 5: so what?!

Not meaning to single you out Exed, as there are far worse complainers in this thread and all over the web...but what people expect from both the product and the communication from the company is just overboard.

I can't wait to the flood of loathing to come when they announce their next product which does more stuff ("OMG YOU SHOULD HAVE PUT THAT IN THE RETRON 5 YOU GREEDY FUCKS!@!!1!")...especially considering that they've released at least one new console a year for a while now...
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The complaints in this thread are ridiculously mild compared to the internet at large. My only issue so far is that I wish they had enough units to ship at launch day. But that's not a huge deal, I can wait. The delays that led up to the launch and having to install firmware updates doesn't bother me much.
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dsheinem wrote:
ExedExes wrote:
For all this trouble, it better work flawlessly.
I don't AT ALL get the hate for Hyperkin in this thread or elsewhere.
Hype backlash, and the gaming community's immense sense of entitlement.

I'm patiently waiting for some fixes (not to mention availability) before I invest in one, but I feel like most of the Internet is more keen on seeing them fail than it is seeing them succeed.

But yeah, this thread is one of the more reasonable ones out there.
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Gunstar Green wrote:
dsheinem wrote:
ExedExes wrote:
For all this trouble, it better work flawlessly.
I don't AT ALL get the hate for Hyperkin in this thread or elsewhere.
Hype backlash
I'm still not sure why people were getting so hyped to begin with.

Like it's Hyperkin. They've always made cheap clone hardware, that's like, their entire business.

I really don't know why people expected this to be a huge break from their norm?
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Famicom support + GB/GBC/GBA support + PBC compatibility + HDMI + save states made this a huge deal. Yeah it's Hyperkin, but it's miles ahead of anything they have released in the past.
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Ok, so the Retron 5 is set up and good to go. Before I begin, I didn't mean to come off as one of the entitled in my last post. Even though the majority of people who have it so far seem to be satisfied with the unit, the last thing I wanted after all this time was to run into one of the many issues I've been reading about. I'm not one to really complain about much and especially this, and I haven't been, but after all this time and knowing Hyperkin's quality record, the last thing I need is a paperweight :lol:

So onto my initial impressions. I am pleased to say that so far, so good. When you first power on the system (hold the button down until you see a white screen), it will ask to establish the wireless connection (pair) the controller with the unit. You press the HOME button until the LEDs at the bottom start flashing. Simple. About 30-60 seconds later, controller is paired. I then went to the system settings to see if I needed the 0.2.2 software update. I did, so I took my 1GB camera card and formatted it so I could give it the space it needed (200-300MB). After getting the system update, I put the card in the back of the unit, the system detected the update, and I let it patch up. It took a little over a minute for this process, at which point the system rebooted, with a few black "Retron 5" screens during this process. The system software update was installed.

Now, the firmware (application) update. After the system update, the Retron 5 will notify you that new firmware is available, and it has the option to put the request on your SD card. I did that, and took it to my computer and got the firmware. Same process as before, except the firmware update took about half the time to complete. After another reboot, everything looked to be in order.
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With everything updated, I first tried an older GB game I had cleaned for this test, Revenge of The Gator. The unit recognized the cartridge and started it up. I was blown away by the visual quality. I played a fast game of that with the wireless controller and found no problems with latency or input lag (as some have been reporting).

I then wanted to test the new firmware out with a GBA game that can save. I tested it with The Lost Vikings, fresh off completion from last month's Together Retro. It recognized this game and imported the saves to the unit. I also connected an original SNES pad to the unit for this test.
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Again, the visual quality speaks for itself. I must add the sound quality is great too. This looks a lot better than the Game Boy Player. The SNES pad also worked perfectly, despite reports of people saying that SNES pads may not work correctly. To test if my saves were wiped, after playing a little bit, I put this cartridge back in my GBA SP, and nothing was erased, all the save files were still there.

Later on I'll be back with my impressions on SNES and possibly NES games.

A few notes about the controller: I like how it feels, the corner grips on the bottom make it comfortable, I like the click of the microswitches, possibly because my X-Arcade joystick also makes use of microswitches. By default, the round button in the upper right corner is mapped to Fast Forward, and that really is nice. The controller also comes fully charged; I used the included Micro USB cable to see how it charges up and that works great too. The LED lights come on when it's charging, and shut off when charging is complete. The controller will also charge with the power off.

So far, I am liking what I am seeing. More testing and reviewing later.
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The GBA visual quality is really something special. I still can't believe how good Yoshi's Island and F-Zero look on it.
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ExedExes wrote:Ok, so the Retron 5 is set up and good to go. Before I begin, I didn't mean to come off as one of the entitled in my last post. Even though the majority of people who have it so far seem to be satisfied with the unit, the last thing I wanted after all this time was to run into one of the many issues I've been reading about. I'm not one to really complain about much and especially this, and I haven't been, but after all this time and knowing Hyperkin's quality record, the last thing I need is a paperweight :lol:

So onto my initial impressions. I am pleased to say that so far, so good. When you first power on the system (hold the button down until you see a white screen), it will ask to establish the wireless connection (pair) the controller with the unit. You press the HOME button until the LEDs at the bottom start flashing. Simple. About 30-60 seconds later, controller is paired. I then went to the system settings to see if I needed the 0.2.2 software update. I did, so I took my 1GB camera card and formatted it so I could give it the space it needed (200-300MB). After getting the system update, I put the card in the back of the unit, the system detected the update, and I let it patch up. It took a little over a minute for this process, at which point the system rebooted, with a few black "Retron 5" screens during this process. The system software update was installed.

Now, the firmware (application) update. After the system update, the Retron 5 will notify you that new firmware is available, and it has the option to put the request on your SD card. I did that, and took it to my computer and got the firmware. Same process as before, except the firmware update took about half the time to complete. After another reboot, everything looked to be in order.
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With everything updated, I first tried an older GB game I had cleaned for this test, Revenge of The Gator. The unit recognized the cartridge and started it up. I was blown away by the visual quality. I played a fast game of that with the wireless controller and found no problems with latency or input lag (as some have been reporting).

I then wanted to test the new firmware out with a GBA game that can save. I tested it with The Lost Vikings, fresh off completion from last month's Together Retro. It recognized this game and imported the saves to the unit. I also connected an original SNES pad to the unit for this test.
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Again, the visual quality speaks for itself. I must add the sound quality is great too. This looks a lot better than the Game Boy Player. The SNES pad also worked perfectly, despite reports of people saying that SNES pads may not work correctly. To test if my saves were wiped, after playing a little bit, I put this cartridge back in my GBA SP, and nothing was erased, all the save files were still there.

Later on I'll be back with my impressions on SNES and possibly NES games.

A few notes about the controller: I like how it feels, the corner grips on the bottom make it comfortable, I like the click of the microswitches, possibly because my X-Arcade joystick also makes use of microswitches. By default, the round button in the upper right corner is mapped to Fast Forward, and that really is nice. The controller also comes fully charged; I used the included Micro USB cable to see how it charges up and that works great too. The LED lights come on when it's charging, and shut off when charging is complete. The controller will also charge with the power off.

So far, I am liking what I am seeing. More testing and reviewing later.
Awesome write up. Very detailed. Thank you!

Just makes me want mine so much more :lol:
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