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Didn't Gail Simone have some issue at one point with DC as well? She almost got kicked off Batgirl as I recall.

I'm gonna assume they let Snyder do what he wants and I hope they continue that trend. His Batman is sooooo good.
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BurningDoom wrote: If this was the first time this has happened, I might agree with you.

But no way this is a case of a upset, spoiled creator not getting his way. Because this isn't the first, second, or even third time creative has walked out of DC Comics' doors since this New 52 universe has begun. Multiple creators have walked out of DC's offices over "editorial decisions".

With such a trend recently, there is something definitely going wrong with editorial at DC, not the creators.

From the last interview I read, editors are okaying storylines for creators, then last minute telling them no and then they're left out in the cold to try and scramble together something else last minute. Other creators have decided not to comment at all. And Rob Lifield went off in an online rant at DC when he left.
From what I have read, and heard from some low level employees, it's not as much DC as the suits at WB. I can not confirm that, but the corporation keeps getting involved and that was the fear when Disney bought Marvel.
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I love a good time-travel or alternate-universe comic story.

I've recently finished JLA: Rock of Ages, X-Men: Here Comes Tomorrow, and re-read Age of Apocalypse (the original saga). And of course, Crisis on Infinite Earths and Infinite Crisis are two of the greatest super-hero sagas ever written.

So, for my education, my amusement, and to satiate my curiosity; please list for me some great time-travel/alternate universe comic book stories. I want more.
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Have you read DC 1 million?
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Valkyrie-Favor wrote:Have you read DC 1 million?
Yeah. The future heroes' costume design looked cool. But beyond that, it was a pretty forgettable story.
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The two best stories I'm reading that are currently running are:

Superior Spider-Man

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As Dr. Octopus is on his death-bed, he executes his final plan against Spider-Man. Using technology he used to mentally control his octo-bots, he ends up transferring his consciousness into Spider-Man's body while Peter is tranferred into Doc Ock's ravaged and dying body, AND SUCCEEDS!

Peter ends up dying in Otto's body, while Doc Ock runs around in Spider-Man's body. Doc Ock is beside himself, enjoying Peter's life (having his powers and his job at Horizon Labs). Using his superior intellect (and ego) he decides he can do Spider-Man's job even better than Peter himself did. He's is indeed a more efficient hero; but also a much more brutal, demanding, and arrogant hero (which makes for some damn entertaining reading).

Despite HATING what Marvel did to poor Peter, I can't stop reading this.

All of this happens in the last few issues of Amazing Spider-Man (#697-700), and then continues with Doc Ock at the helm in Superior Spider-Man #1. We're at issue #17, I think, and he's crossing over with Spider-Man 2099 right now; which has been the best part of this ride so far!


and

X-Men: Battle of the Atom

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After the events of Avengers vs. X-Men, Beast (Hank McCoy) is disillusioned and depressed, and feels that Xavier's ideals and dreams are dying before his eyes.

Using time-travel technology developed by Dr. Doom originally, he goes back in time (in his not-so-healthy mental state) and grabs the original 5 X-Men (teenage Cyclops, Iceman, Beast (pre-blue fur), Angel (later becomes Archangel), and Jean Grey) and brings them to the present; with hopes that when the present-day X-Men see them their eyes will be opened to just how far they've fallen.

When the original 5 X-Men see the state of Mutantity (and Jean Grey seeing that she's dead), they decide to stay and help and fight on for Xavier's ideals in the present.

This all happens in "The All-New X-Men" series.

Fast-forward to the actual event:

A mysterious X-Men team from the future shows up on the present-day X-Men's doorstep saying that it is vital the original 5 X-Men return to their own time or it could bring great disaster in the future. The original 5 X-Men don't take to well to being told how to live their lives and where they belong. So they run.

The original 5 X-Men end-up siding with present-day Cyclops, Magneto, and White Queen's team of rebel X-Men (who were responsible for many of the atrocities in Avengers vs. X-Men, including Xavier's death), as they end up being the only ones who agree the original 5 X-Men should have a say in their own destiny.

Very interesting story with some great looking artwork and cool looking designs on the mysterious future X-Men. And I've never even been a huge X-Men fan aside from Age of Apocalypse.

This storyline crosses all the X-Men titles, and begins and ends with "X-Men: Battle of the Atom" #1 & #2.



Other than that, Marvel and DC aren't doing all that great. The New 52 Universe DC has created and went by since 2011, has been more disappointing than new and fresh. Everyone at DC just seems like an angry anti-hero now.

And the big event at Marvel right now is Infinity. Which by all accounts should be freaking awesome since it features The Avengers and Thanos. But instead is an overly-complicated mess that just becomes too twisted in confusion. And you have to buy like every Avengers titles out there (and there's a lot, Avengers is like what the X-Men books were in the 90s) as well as the main mini-series to get every piece of the story you need to even begin to try and understand it.
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Do you guys know the amount of circulation these comic books get? I would like to know how big the fan-base of comic books and are there comic books outside of Japan and USA.
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RCBH928 wrote:Do you guys know the amount of circulation these comic books get? I would like to know how big the fan-base of comic books and are there comic books outside of Japan and USA.
It's way lower than it was in the 90s, I know that. In the 90s, comics were competing with movies and video games.

And yes, they print comic books in many other countries. Very prominently in the U.K., India, and Japan; particularly. Obviously it's more Manga than American-style in Japan, though. There's even Manga versions of Marvel characters.
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RCBH928 wrote:Do you guys know the amount of circulation these comic books get? I would like to know how big the fan-base of comic books and are there comic books outside of Japan and USA.
Outside the U.S. and Japan, there is a pretty strong market in Europe, with the U.K. and Germany being some places where it is pretty popular. Outside of that, I really don't know how popular they are, although I do know that they are popular enough in China for the Chinese to have invented the opposite of Captain America, Captain China, a gun toting super hero promoting Communism.
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So I was browsing the DC 52 titles database to see what they cancelled and is still ongoing and came across this...

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I didn't even know it existed. I thought it was a joke. Is DC really scraping the bottom of the barrel since they cancelled a few titles and have the need for other ones to fill the void so it can be exactly 52 titles?!? This is one of the new 52 titles from the 4th wave of DC comics which was this past June or July. I actually kinda want to check it out just to see how ridiculous it is.
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