Do us the favor of defining these terms for us. What is mass scale immigration and what distinguishes it from "ordinary" immigration? Why is it a problem with muslims? Would this "mass scale immigration" be a problem with other religious or cultural groups as well?Menegrothx wrote: if you're a liberal atheist, you should oppose mass scale muslim integration to Europe. That doesn't mean that muslims should be barred from immigrating to Europe or that they should be treated differently when moving to Europe. Again, mass scale immigration is not the same thing as all immigration.
As a liberal athiest, I have to disagree. I tend to be very critical of Christianity because Christianity has a far greater influence over my life, and it's omnipresent. As for Islam being "worse", well, that greatly depends. I think the biggest problem for Islam is the way so many Islamic countries have the religion tangled up in politics. Christian countries that have Christianity tightly woven with government tend to have all sorts of problems as well, though I will agree, in a limited fashion, that in general, the Islamic faith is less tolerant of different world views. That doesn't mean that modern Muslims can't successfully integrate with larger populations. Heck, in the US the militant splinter groups tend to claim Christianity as their banner faith.Menegrothx wrote: Because from a liberal atheist point of view, it is. Everything that they criticize christianity for, islam does it worse.
This is true, but not for the reasons you suggest. I believe this has less to do with Christianity itself and more to do with politics and society. So-called "Christian" countries tend to have a greater variety of different faiths and ethnicities, so they tend to be more tolerant and liberal by necessity, not necessarily by choice. When Muslim nations are 99% Muslim and "Christian" nations are 95%, 90%, maybe even 80% or less, well, those few percentage points have a massive impact on policy and society. Further, the structure of government in many Western nations, especially in Europe, are secular rather than Christian, so they are truly secular nations that have a majority Christian population, not "Christian nations".but when you look at the big picture, Christian countries are far more tolerant and liberal.
Some of what you've put down is inflammatory, in part because you are relying heavily on sweeping generalizations and you aren't being as careful with your language as you should be. You need to chill and be less shrill. When you are typing up a post, save it as a draft and come back to it an hour later to review before posting it.
