No Used Games On Xbox 3

[prfsnl_gmr]

No used games kills jobs.

This is called business, jobs get closed here and opened elsewhere where there is an opportunity.

"We can't move forward with these new-fangled automobiles! Think about all the stable workers that will lose their jobs, because people aren't using horses as transportation!" - Some asshat in the early 1900s.

I am going to agree with Stark here. The "it will kill jobs" argument is pretty much meaningless, and you can state it in response to pretty much any thing you don't like.

"The new Xbox won't play used games."
"No! It will kill (GameStop employees') jobs!"

"The car will replace the horse and buggy."
"No! It will kill (stable boys') jobs!"

"The internet is great for quickly and efficiently delivery information."
"No! It will kill (postal workers') jobs!"

"Stop drinking so much, daddy."
"No! It will kill (whiskey manufacturers') jobs!"

"Pay me child support."
"No! It will kill (collection agents') jobs!"

"Put on your clothes."
"No! It will kill (police officers') jobs!"

[BoringSupreez]

"ATMs will eliminate the need to go to the bank."
"No! It will kill (bank teller's) jobs!"

Oh wait, that one sounds familiar. Sorry, I'm done now.

[Hobie-wan]

Digital distribution? Won't someone think of the disc manufacturers?!?

[dsheinem]

The fact that some of you are trying to engage The Rev, BurningDoom, or anyone else that is arguing about the morality or legality of this (even to show them why they are wrong) is absolutely adorable.

[SuperAnthony64]

Say you buy a used PC game, it won't work. You hack that bitch and it works
Since Consoles are closed you can't do the same thing.

But where do you find used PC games, apart from randomly at thrift stores?

Besides the majority of hacking of PCs games is to get it to work on different OSes (well apart from the spoofing of security details). That would not be a problem with a closed OS system like a console.

If the consoles follow Steams approach of super discount sales, I have no problem with this. However we all know they will be more like they are now where they rarely have sales.

Rarely have sales? Console games are always going on sale at Targets all across the country. About a month ago they had a bunch of Wii U games on sale for around 30 to 40 dollars I believe. Not to mention about once every 2 months there's a BoGo sale on their selection of games.

Its not just you digital outlets offering deals, its everywhere. I love the PC gaming experience but I have been turned off with it cause the lack of physical media. I had to import Dark Souls Brand New for 37 dollars when its on steam for $39.99. So i wound up getting it for cheaper than the digital version and got a bunch of goodies out of the box.

I always find it funny when people say the only time you find deals are on digital markets. Yes they have some outrageous bundles going for a cheap price sometimes but they are cutting out packaging and man power to do it. I like walking into a GameStop and finding some a used game sitting there for a couple of bucks cheaper than the new. The dev/pub already got their money once for said game so why is it a problem?

The problem I have with the lack of new games is that you are now forced to keep that game that you don't like and someone else might. Anyone remember Mass Effect 2? Got great write ups and claimed to be better than the first one. Bought the game brand new $60 and played the game for 20 hours. HATED IT!! So I sold it to someone else who would enjoy it. We wont be able to do this once these "codes" are forced to console gaming (PC is something completely different). Borrowing games from friends, giving games to family members/ co workers, bringing games over a friends house are all gone thanks to these "codes". Gonna have to lug over your console to play split screen Forza with a pal cause he dont have it and Micro$oft doesnt want someone who didnt purchase the game new to enjoy it. Is that fair?

[BurningDoom]

I'm not following your logic here. PC games are video games. Console games are video games. The modern PC game cannot be purchased used. The modern PC game industry is doing fine. How would no used console games destroy the console game industry?

It's different because there never was a used market for PC gaming. Whereas console gaming has a HUGE used market, which many gamers depend on to be able to keep up with the games they want to play.

I don't think it will kill the gaming industry completely, I never said that. I said it's going to alienate a lot of people, and it will. There are a lot of people that simply cannot afford buying all games new or others that are only casual gamers and will spend that money elsewhere without a cheaper used option. And all those lost sales means less profits for the industry.

[dsheinem]

I'm not following your logic here. PC games are video games. Console games are video games. The modern PC game cannot be purchased used. The modern PC game industry is doing fine. How would no used console games destroy the console game industry?

It's different because there never was a used market for PC gaming. Whereas console gaming has a HUGE used market, which many gamers depend on to be able to keep up with the games they want to play.

I don't think it will kill the gaming industry completely, I never said that. I said it's going to alienate a lot of people, and it will. There are a lot of people that simply cannot afford buying all games new or others that are only casual gamers and will spend that money elsewhere without a cheaper used option. And all those lost sales means less profits for the industry.

I bet a game company would rather sell 1 new games than 10 used ones.

[BurningDoom]

I'm not following your logic here. PC games are video games. Console games are video games. The modern PC game cannot be purchased used. The modern PC game industry is doing fine. How would no used console games destroy the console game industry?

It's different because there never was a used market for PC gaming. Whereas console gaming has a HUGE used market, which many gamers depend on to be able to keep up with the games they want to play.

I don't think it will kill the gaming industry completely, I never said that. I said it's going to alienate a lot of people, and it will. There are a lot of people that simply cannot afford buying all games new or others that are only casual gamers and will spend that money elsewhere without a cheaper used option. And all those lost sales means less profits for the industry.

I bet a game company would rather sell 1 new games than 10 used ones.

Touche.

So in other words, screw the lower-income gamers.

[dsheinem]

I bet a game company would rather sell 1 new games than 10 used ones.

Touche.

So in other words, screw the lower-income gamers.

This hypothetical move wouldn't be about a deliberate "screwing" as much as it would be about a calculated risk that they think would maximize profit. These are businesses with bottom lines and shareholders who are trying to milk maximum profit out of the market, not non for profits who "could really use your support" and "would appreciate if you buy new".

[Hobie-wan]

So in other words, screw the lower-income gamers.

Well, video games are a luxury. Nobody ever died from lack of video games. I barely had an allowance when I was a teenager, so I might as well have been called a 'low income gamer' since I wasn't spoiled. If I hadn't been able to rent games, I probably would have just played more D&D than I did back then. Other friends had a good number of the books between then and pencil, paper, and my time to bike to the rec center or their house was cheap.