Finally my first chance to play through Ocarina Of Time.

[sevin0seven]

The N64 controller sucks.

Now I take offense to that, the N64 controller is a damn good controller and has one of the best and most responsive analog sticks around (when they're not broken or worn out). Lots of people just tend to hold it wrong and completely pass it off as junk as a result.

+1

[Xeogred]

Call me crazy but I really have no interest in the 3DS remake, looks like a "just isn't the same" kind of deal for me. Would be an alienated experience.

Who knows though. Zero Mission rocked.

[Damm64]

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When I say the camera I mean than when in a small or enclosed place it tends to clip and get stuck often. As for Z-Targeting it's more of the annoyance that comes with waiting for Navi to pop out (usually too early and too late), and how if you don't lock onto a target and hold that lock when it's near you can't lock on consistently or at all as it distances itself from you afterwards.

EDIT!: Also, I don't see games as having standards for the time, only the expectation of the public and reviewers at large. A game is a game and should be judged like a good book, album, or movie, by it's merits alone. There are plenty of games that reviewed and played like crap to people ten years ago which are now gold-standards because people finally get and understand the concepts that were being executed within.

Not to mention the slew of AAA rated games from the past for which the exact opposite has happened.

Yeah the camera stuck happened to me but just a very few times and never had that problem of navi takin a time to pop up.

What i mean of "standarts of the time" i mean that if i'm gonna play a game made in 1998 some things like camera, grafics and controls are not gonna be to the level of polish of the games of today so i have to erase from my mind how games today play when i play a old game. I could be more clear before but i don't know how to say it

The game has to be judged by it's own merits but sometimes we can be blinded of how the old games used to play since all new games control like a charm (most of the time) and we can be a bit too harsh on the game.

At least for me ocarina still plays good 10 years after it's release, not perfect, but good still.

[AppleQueso]

I think it deserves all of the acclaim it got on release. Hype's a bitch though, it can kill almost anything it seems.

Sure it feels a bit clunky and dated now, but I think that's mainly because its mechanics have been built on and improved upon by not just future Zeldas, but by a lot of future games in general. Kinda par for the course in that era I guess, as people were still figuring out just how games were supposed to even work in 3D. Compared to many of its contemporaries, Ocarina of Time plays like a charm.

I also personally feel that it's still the most well rounded 3D Zelda. Pacing, difficulty, narrative, sidequests, all of them feel 'just right' and balance each other out well. Future games in the series would greatly improve on individual aspects, but none of them have quite nailed all of them at once with the kind of balance OOT has.

Call me crazy but I really have no interest in the 3DS remake, looks like a "just isn't the same" kind of deal for me. Would be an alienated experience.

Who knows though. Zero Mission rocked.

Funny thing, the 3DS version doesn't interest me much because it looks too similar. I guess I tend to hold remakes to the standard of the Gamecube remake of Resident Evil.

[Violent By Design]

I dont like Ocarina of Time at all. I give it like a 5/10.

The camera is fine and so is the Z system, but I don't really get what the fun part of the game is supposed to be.

The combat system is nice, but the bad guys are so weak and predictable that the game doesn't make use of it.

The open world is totally pointless.

The night and day system is pointless (yes, I know they got it from the SNES Zelda). Oh shit, same two skeletons spawning behind me, who are too slow to catch up to me.

Some of the temples are good, but I don't find the puzzles to be all that exhilarating to figure out. Getting lost in that game didn't feel very thought provoking, usually consisted of me doing random stuff in till something worked.

I thought the Water Temple was fun, but pausing to put on your boots was very tedious, though you don't have to worry about that in the 3DS version.


I stopped around the Shadow Temple, and don't really care to go on. I have Majoras Mask, so if I play a 3D Zelda again it will likely be that since it seems very different.

[AppleQueso]

^sounds to me like you just plain don't like Zelda. Majora's Mask isn't all THAT different, it's just got a bigger emphasis on sidequests. Basic gameplay and overall structure is pretty much the same.

[Violent By Design]

^sounds to me like you just plain don't like Zelda. Majora's Mask isn't all THAT different, it's just got a bigger emphasis on sidequests. Basic gameplay and overall structure is pretty much the same.

Does the Legend of Zelda count as a Zelda game? I'm pretty sure I liked that one.

[o.pwuaioc]

It's decent. Still think Link to the Past and Link's Awakening are the best Zelda games.

yup

Wait, I thought you didn't like any Zelda game?

^sounds to me like you just plain don't like Zelda. Majora's Mask isn't all THAT different, it's just got a bigger emphasis on sidequests. Basic gameplay and overall structure is pretty much the same.

Does the Legend of Zelda count as a Zelda game? I'm pretty sure I liked that one.

I'm guessing he's only referring to 3D Zelda games. 2D and 3D are two different beasts. And as usual, 2D > 3D.

[Violent By Design]

It's decent. Still think Link to the Past and Link's Awakening are the best Zelda games.

yup

Wait, I thought you didn't like any Zelda game?

^sounds to me like you just plain don't like Zelda. Majora's Mask isn't all THAT different, it's just got a bigger emphasis on sidequests. Basic gameplay and overall structure is pretty much the same.

Does the Legend of Zelda count as a Zelda game? I'm pretty sure I liked that one.

I'm guessing he's only referring to 3D Zelda games. 2D and 3D are two different beasts. And as usual, 2D > 3D.

Ocarina is the only 3D Zelda I've played, so I couldn't say if I just dislike Zelda.

[AppleQueso]

I'd almost say that Zelda NES is a bit of a different beast even from the rest of the 2D games. A Link to the Past probably has more in common with OOT than it does with Zelda 1.

Zelda also really hasn't been a difficult series since the NES days if you ask me.

Where'd you get the idea that the SNES Zelda had a day/night system? The dark/light world isn't a day/night system at all. It's more analogous to OOT's time travel thing.

But yeah, if you disliked OOT that much, especially when it comes to difficulty, I can't imagine you liking the other 3D Zeldas much better.