Why DON'T you kill people?

[dsheinem]

Authors: Christianne Corbett (female) & Catherine Hill (female)

clearly this is an agenda driven study by activist feminists because these are women who study gender, and they couldn't have done any legitimate research due to their obvious biases! Bet they are ugly, lesbians, divorced, PMSing, or all of the above too! Either that or they slept their way into their position and have no real skill!

What accounts for the unexplained gap?
Experimental
evidence confirms that many people continue
to hold biases against women in the workplace,
especially those who work in traditionally male
fields. Thus, there are solid reasons to believe
that gender discrimination is a problem in the
workplace.
Yet discrimination is impossible to measure
directly, and many who discriminate—both men
and women—may not be aware that they are
doing so. For all of these reasons, it is likely that
at least part of the unexplained gap results from
discrimination.
Another possible explanation for the unexplained portion of the pay gap is a gender difference in willingness and ability to negotiate
salary. Negotiating a salary can make a difference in earnings, and men are more likely than women to negotiate their salaries. In part, this
difference may reflect women’s awareness that
employers are likely to view negotiations by men
more favorably than negotiations by women.
Nonetheless, negotiation may account for some
portion of the unexplained gap.

The choice of words they use already shows how serious and solid their study was.

Reasons to believe, likely that, may...

new rule: you can no longer demand "evidence of research" since you clearly have no idea how research articles are written, how claims are forwarded in them, or how to see them from any perspective that isn't colored by your preconceptions.

[elmagicochrisg]

clearly this is an agenda driven study by activist feminists because these are women who study gender, and they couldn't have done any legitimate research due to their obvious biases! Bet they are ugly, lesbians, divorced, PMSing, or all of the above too! Either that or they slept their way into their position and have no real skill!

Did I say that?...

All I pointed out was the 'fact' that both researchers are female. Which did not surprise me really.

I wonder why?... (rhetorical question)

new rule: you can no longer demand "evidence of research" since you clearly have no idea how research articles are written, how claims are forwarded in them, or how to see them from any perspective that isn't colored by your preconceptions.

If you say so honey...

[J T]

Back on topic...

Another thing that prevents me from murder is the basic cognitive flexibility to think up nonviolent ways of achieving my goals. Most violence is fueled by anger, and anger usually comes about from goals being blocked and the emotion then prompts an urge to attack the barrier to the goal. But there is no need for violence if one can take a step back from the violent impulse, realize their goal is being blocked, and then problem solve how to remove the barrier nonviolently. Our schools should teach kids how to do this. This seems a better solution than putting armed guards in schools (something Columbine had by the way), or arming teachers and insisting they have firearm training if they want to keep their jobs, or banning video games, or banning psychotropic drugs, or teaching boys that they absolutely should kill because that's what men do, or any other ridiculous "solutions" that have been proposed.

[Michi]

Most violence is fueled by anger, and anger usually comes about from goals being blocked and the emotion then prompts an urge to attack the barrier to the goal.

This is good point and probably why I'm not a very violent person. I have my moments of frustration, sure, but then I shrug and try again. The goal is usually still there, so instead of trying to go through the preverbal barrier, I try to go around it. But then, there have been times when I've been told I'm freakishly calm and patient, though I don't see myself that way.

[J T]

Years ago I came up with a game to pass the time in airports. I'm naturally curious about people, but it's very easy to see people as a series of floating heads in coats and pants. To humanize them all, I pretend I am a psychic having a flash about the person's life as they walk by. Within a matter of seconds, I imagine them meeting people at the terminal (or not), I imagine them waking up in the morning, eating breakfast. I imagine them at their graduation. I imagine them laughing. Crying. Walking the halls at school, possibly when they were younger. Getting in trouble. I imagine them in love. I imagine them alone. I imagine them having sex, or masturbating alone. I imagine them driving to work in traffic. I imagine them out to dinner with their mother. Basically, I just have a rush of images flash through my mind like a high speed photo montage. I imagine the exciting moments, the mundane moments, and the personal things we don't see in others without really knowing them. Some friends have told me that they think I'm weird for doing this, but I think it's weird not to. Though I don't believe in psychic, nor do I think I am one, I feel that people are more real in my mind from playing this game. They are more human. They aren't just faces in the crowd, or numbers. They each have a different story. Different motivations and feelings. Different personalities. It's harder to want to be a psychopath killer when you have a fuller sense for the humanity around you.

[o.pwuaioc]

^I do that sometimes on the subway, except it's not "what's their life" but rather "what's their vice."

I imagine them having sex, or masturbating alone.

That is the weird part.

[J T]

I imagine them having sex, or masturbating alone.

That is the weird part.

You don't know how weird it gets.

Oh, you meant weird that I think it.

[Erik_Twice]

Pro tip: You are being trolled gentlemen. That or you are talking with someone extremely stupid. Choose your poison.

[Luke]

Well.

This thread has been an interesting read. All over the place, but interesting.

As for me, I collect sidearms, have participated in MMA matches, and have KO'd a few people, yet I hate violence. That said, the most alive I've ever felt was when 1) Met my wife, 2) Performed Stand-up in Chicago, 3)Knocking out a jerk who was much larger than me (in a crowded restaurant at that*).

Leaving someone unconscious is a feeling that is hard to put into words. One minute you want to kill the guy, the next second you're asking him if he's okay. At first you want to cause physical damage, but after you do you feel awful about it. There is a sense of relief that the fight is over, but when you see the guy's entire body become stiff, arms outstretched...it's just uncomfortable. At the end of the day however, it is an ego boost whether you want it or not.



*think it was in 2002 or 2003, and it's not a very interesting story. My friends and I were out at Chico's Restraint which is still a popular hang out for college students. Long story short, this jerk and his girlfriend are arguing a few tables away from us and he pushes the girl to the floor. Everyone who saw it let out an "Oooh!", and I ran over and told the guy to leave. In return, he punched my face, near my left temple. A bit dazed, I landed a right near his lower chin/neck. Police were on the scene in minutes, and he was arrested, I was let go.

[chilimac]

think it was in 2002 or 2003, and it's not a very interesting story. My friends and I were out at Chico's Restraint which is still a popular hang out for college students. Long story short, this jerk and his girlfriend are arguing a few tables away from us and he pushes the girl to the floor. Everyone who saw it let out an "Oooh!", and I ran over and told the guy to leave. In return, he punched my face, near my left temple. A bit dazed, I landed a right near his lower chin/neck. Police were on the scene in minutes, and he was arrested, I was let go.

What pisses me off about this little story is the part where the guy was arrested... for being a man. Men are stronger than women for a reason, because nature as designated them as leader and the female as the follower. But now, thanks to our laws, it's illegal for a man to behave like a man, which has reversed the roles of male and female. Now the female rules the roost. If there's an argument between her and her man, and if he doesn't back down and let the her win, then chances are the argument will continue to escalate until the man becomes violent, because when a man becomes angry it is only natural for him to become violent, and now instead of the woman finally learning a lesson she should have learned a long time ago, the man is arrested and thrown into a cage. Now the lesson is for the man, and the lesson he learns is that it's best to become tolerant and submissive unless he wants more punishment. It's self-imposed psychological castration, and it's disgusting.

And another thing that pisses me off is the way you reacted to the pushing, with you rushing over there to play the role of hero and trying to impress your friends with your tough-guy act. If you ask me, you're the jerk who should have been taken away and locked in a cage. It seems you still need to learn a lesson of your own... and that is to mind your own damn business, because one of these days you might meet up with a "real" bad dude, and he's going to stomp your punk-ass into the dirt.