Anybody feel some companies are taking advantage of blu disc

[JC48573]

I'm definitely ok with having multiple games on one disc, especially with the recently announced Mass Effect Trilogy. It sounds like a way to cash in (heard dlc is cut from it) on folks that never really got around the series. I started off as a PS3 owner before and the thought that we never got Mass Effect or Dead Rising really bothered me. I ended up purchasing a 360 console later on, but I still didn't buy any of the Mass Effect games as my interest for it sorta dissipated until they finally announced the trilogy. I guess seeing how you can fit that game on one disc was always an amazing feature for me despite the fact that the games may not perform as well as the 360, but it ain't like the game is broken or anything just framerate issues here and there.

Now, I know is late in the generation, but I'm starting to see a trend where they are trying to take advantage of the space in the blue disc. If there's enough space, they throw in a another game to get people to buy. Let's take Red Dead Redemption GOTY for example, would you really buy 360 over the ps3 version realizing it comes in 2 discs? Maybe not, especially if you already own the games. Even if the games do perform poorly on the ps3, I just can't help but think having games on one disc is just marvelous idea, who wouldn't be?

[Cronozilla]

Well, sometimes they don't actually remaster the games at all, it's just another production run put in a single package. It just depends on which process is cheaper.

I know, from the consumer's perspective, it kind of seems wasteful ... but it's really just an ideological concern. For practicality purposes, if you re-release a game that was already on that medium ... it doesn't make a lot of sense to devote time to reissuing that content when the images are already on file.

Sometimes they have to, like if it was never on that media, or if they're adding things. But usually, in terms of re-releases, they aren't. It's kinda rare.

Also, personally, I'd prefer things be less lossy compressed on the disc, than more games being packed in.

[JC48573]

it really depends on the game. Mass Effect for me, well, it was never really that big of game for me. I think it's how I define quality and Mass Effect expresses that in a different way, so putting the three games together sorta makes up for it and makes it a whole. That's just how I feel. I would of course like a nice case for each game, but that really depends.

[Jmustang1968]

I really don't get the point being made here...

They are sticking more stuff on the game so that is somehow taking advantage of people?

If someone hasn't played Mass Effect and wants to, I think a single purchase of all three packages would be a great deal for them.

So they have the disc space, are they supposed to ignore it is there?

[JC48573]

^haven't they? I thought the whole intention of the blue disc is to take advantage of the space from the beginning, but it took them this long to do so because of the exclusivity ordeal. They claim they are going multiplatform, but their games don't even take up that much space on the blue disc.

[emwearz]

^haven't they? I thought the whole intention of the blue disc is to take advantage of the space from the beginning, but it took them this long to do so because of the exclusivity ordeal. They claim they are going multiplatform, but their games don't even take up that much space on the blue disc.

So what would you have them do? Just fill it with a endless 1080P loop to fill the disc up?

I agree with Jmustang1968, I don't understand the point of your post.

[isiolia]

^haven't they? I thought the whole intention of the blue disc is to take advantage of the space from the beginning, but it took them this long to do so because of the exclusivity ordeal. They claim they are going multiplatform, but their games don't even take up that much space on the blue disc.

Objectively speaking, hardly any games, even now, actually require the space a Blu-ray disc affords. Skimming my PC installs, the Witcher 2 definitely can at close to a 23GB install, Rage around 20GB, SWTOR around 20GB, GW2 around 17GB... however, many are still under 10GB with the typically higher resolution textures on PC. A Blu-ray has space to blow on HD textures and less compressed media, but the PS3 doesn't have the memory to work with them.

The point of the PS3 having a Blu-ray drive was to saturate the market with Blu-ray and beat HD-DVD. The extra space is definitely nice, but Blu-ray isn't always better for games. Possible that so many PS3 games have mandatory installs due to it.

Finding good uses for the space now is nice, as are the HD collections in general. I think Bioware was less holding out for a double dip on Mass Effect as they simply didn't port ME to the PS3 until now. If I recall, Bioware only really "ported" the ME3 engine to the PS3 (whatever that actually entailed, considering it's Unreal based). They redid ME2 in that engine to release it on the system. It's likely they had to revisit ME1 and convert it all over too.

[MrHealthy]

Possible that so many PS3 games have mandatory installs due to it.

The PS3 has so many mandatory installs because the blu-ray disc drive is an early model with only a x1 read speed. Has nothing to do with the discs themselves.

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Guys, he isn't talking about taking advantage in a negative sense. He is talking about it in a positive sense. As in, they are using the extra space more often now.

[isiolia]

Possible that so many PS3 games have mandatory installs due to it.

The PS3 has so many mandatory installs because the blu-ray disc drive is an early model with only a x1 read speed. Has nothing to do with the discs themselves.

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Guys, he isn't talking about taking advantage in a negative sense. He is talking about it in a positive sense. As in, they are using the extra space more often now.

2X, needs to be to meet spec for Blu-ray movies. Still, the point is valid, as the read speed on that is still slower than the 12X (or faster) DVD drives in the 360. If they'd fitted the system with a better drive, it wouldn't have the same problems in that area.

'course, that could also serve to underline my point that the primary reason they used a Blu-ray drive wasn't because PS3 games particularly required it, but because it was a great strategic move to popularize the format for movies.



I think a lot of the responses were more to the notion of why companies weren't pushing the boundaries of the format since day one.