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Gamerforlife wrote:Freaking Big Show looks more badass than Brock Lesnar right now

God, those idiots in the WWE :roll:
I dont know if Lesnar should be too thrilled with his UFC carrear. His losses were pretty humiliating and he didnt have many quality wins.

Hes back in the WWE for money so i doubt he really cares how they use him as long as the checks clear.

Can't blame him really, if there going to pay and not expect him to do much why not?
He may be fine with how they are using him, but I don't know why the WWE is giving him the big bucks when they've done NOTHING good with him since he came on board. He lost his big first match, he's been off TV forever, and Triple H made him look like a bitch this week. If you are just going to bury the guy on TV, why pay so much money to get him in your company and why did they make such a big deal about his debut? I don't understand how the WWE thinks. They literally piss money away every day. They've turned Brock into just another heel. Regardless of what you think of his UFC career, he did make a name for himself and that name had value when they brought him into the WWE. They've made him look like a loser since then though.

You have a guy who lost to Cena, and has been off TV for ages. If I'm a WWE booker and I have half a brain cell, I realize that I need to do something on the 1000th episode of Raw to actually remind people That Lesnar is a badass. Having him engage in a generic brawl ending in Triple H sending him out of the ring, followed by Lesnar just leaving, doesn't accomplish that.
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Gamerforlife wrote:AJ as GM is brilliant. She's entertaining, that's all that matters. How often are GMs really ever qualified for the job anyway? Nobody gives a crap. They need AJ for the ratings, which HAVE gone up (particularly in the teen demo) since they started focusing on her more, and they can't waste her away in a stupid women's division that no one cares about. Seeing her show Layla why she is no crazier than anyone else in the WWE was one of my favorite moments, and yeah, I did chuckle at Mae Young and the hand.
I see in no way, shape, or form that this is brilliant. Who in the hell gives a flying crap about A.J.? We weren't excited for the heavyweight title match because of her, we were excited because C.M. Punk vs. Daniel Bryan always gives us a fan-freaking-tastic match. She's a little girl. She has absolutely no business being in that position. And how often are Raw GMs qualified? Well while they may have not been legitimately running the show, the people they put in that position at least gave us the illusion that they could if it were true. What about Paul Heyman, Eric Bischoff, Ric Flair, Mr. McMahon himself, or good ole Jack Tunney? They were all qualified GMs. A.J. is just so freaking young, and I don't see her any differently than I see any other high school girl which means I don't find her entertaining or interesting, either. And storyline-wise, if Daniel Bryan has already been shown manipulating her, what's gonna stop every other heel in the company from doing the same?
Well, there's the fact that she totally screwed over Daniel Bryan, a heel.

Did Mick Foley really seem like he was qualified to be a GM? Or Vickie? Or the random guest hosts who ran the show? And how the hell was Flair qualified? He was just some wrestler. How the hell is Triple H qualified to be COO of the company? Were we ever given any reason on TV to see him as anything more than a wrestler when he got the position? No. Only insider wrestling fans actually know that Triple H helps run the business behind the scenes. Was Zak Ryder qualified to run Smackdown a weak ago? It doesn't matter who the GM is. Nobody cares about their qualifications. The crowd only cares about if the person is a heel or a face and if they are entertaining.

Who the hell gives a crap about AJ? Um, have you actually watched WWE programming at all in the past month or so? Apparently, you are completely oblivious to the audience. If you think nobody cares about AJ, you've been watching Raw and Smackdown with the mute button on. The girl is over with the crowds in a big way
Then I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Because I think this is one of the stupidest moves WWE has done in a long time.
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I believe Lesnar is scheduled to be on every RAW leading up to Summerslam now - or at least that was speculation. I would bet a large chunk of money on him destroying HBK in San Antonio in a couple of weeks.
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Gamer: Oh i do agree, it makes no sense. I've never been a Lesner fan, but why they are paying him so much money to do so little is baffling. Hes being treated like they want to punish him, but punishment doesn't make sense when you still get a fat check. Hell you can pay me not to be on tv right now if you want vince :D I would expect them to at least get their money's worth, but it wouldn't be the first time their booking made no sense so, par for the course i guess.

Was i the only one who kinda wished Chyna had been at the DX reunion on RAW. I know she did that Avengers porno spoff so maybe she isn't exactly the image they want right now, but it would have been nice. I know her relationship with the other former members isnt great, but a one night only appearance would have been cool.
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First bit of WWE I have watched since the Raw after WM28. So some of my thoughts may be unreasonable.

Right, first things first. I completely marked out at the Hand and the APA. Seeing Vader and DDP was mad! Also made me miss WCW. The DX reunion just felt meh, I grew up with DX and I think the whole merchandise and HBK+HHH=DX really made me not care for the reunion. Especially as I've seen these guys in TNA. So many acronyms! They could have at least used the New Age Outlaws music and have Road Dogg come out on the mic. And where was the finishers, the Bronco Buster and what not. It just didn't feel as good as it could have been.

Where was Stone Cold, the main guy that helped Raw overcome Nitro.

Overall though, I thought it was an excellent episode. The problem I find now is that I was watching for the appearances, not the wrestling. When Raw goes back to normal next week, will I keep watching? The GM being AJ, someone I don't even know of (last time I saw Daniel Bryan with women was the Bella Twins) is a bit weird but let's be honest, how much power will they actually have? With Laurinaitis, HHH and now Steph around, there seems to be too many people in power positions.

And what was the Charlie Sheen thing all about? WWE goes PG and now they are working with drug addled alcoholics? I'm confused.

I think the episode lacked a Booker T/Goldust confrontation with The Rock going all "IT DOESN'T MATTER" on them. In fact, what on earth was The Rock doing wishing Cena good luck. If he doesn't put down someone like he used to, I'm going to be cheering against him soon, as his character is becoming boring. He went from this to calling Daniel Bryan an oompa-loompa.
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Razzmatazz wrote: He went from this to calling Daniel Bryan an oompa-loompa.
That's nothing
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And where was the finishers, the Bronco Buster and what not
I think it's best for Damien Sandow that those guys didn't get to do any moves to him.
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RAW was entertaining, though I honestly don't think the show needs to be three hours long. Monday's showing seemed so very drawn out I had to skip through to the matches and interesting segments.

But let's see, highlights... It's been a few days so I'll probably miss a few things. Undertaker looked amazing! It's awesome to see people mark out when they hear the bell tolling. Brothers of Destruction would be awesome for the severely lacking tag division. HHH, Stephanie and Heyman's debacle was entertaining and you guys have to remember... the show is PG now. The attitude era ended and no matter how much we want it back we're not going to get that level of content from the WWE anymore. Just too many politics involved now. It's a shame, I know. Get over it, move on.

Punk's heel turn was a nice change; most will tell you that you have more options (and its just more fun) as a heel. It was great seeing Amy Dumas/Lita in the ring.

I saw someone answer this question, but apparently some missed it and need clarification again. Stone Cold wasn't on RAW last Monday because he recently underwent a major knee surgery on his left knee. The surgery was a success, but he's going through physical therapy and is on crutches.

Lastly, AJ being GM... I just don't understand it.

How does she qualify for the GM position? She's been running the crazy girl gimmick for quite some time and has been wildly successful with it. I think it's run its course, honestly, and needs to end soon but... are they rewarding AJ for being mentally unstable? I like AJ, but I can't make any sense of this. I can only hope it works out for the best.
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Menegrothx wrote:
Razzmatazz wrote: He went from this to calling Daniel Bryan an oompa-loompa.
That's nothing
Are you kidding? Those two videos are tame!

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Gamerforlife wrote:
Menegrothx wrote:
Razzmatazz wrote: He went from this to calling Daniel Bryan an oompa-loompa.
That's nothing
Are you kidding? Those two videos are tame!

But this doesn't have The Rock in???

I was unaware of Stone Cold having surgery, but they could have done an awesome segment with Vince dressed as a doctor and attacking him.
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