Shooting in Colorado showing of The Dark Knight Rises

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Forlorn Drifter wrote: What if the kid wanted to see it? I never got to go to one till I was 13 or so, only becasue they really didn't have midnigt releases for many movies up until recently.
It's a film. A movie that will exist in perpetuity. Is it unfathomable to think that exposing a child to a violent and artificial experience specifically designed to push audible and visual stimuli cannot wait until their age nears double digits at least?
Exposure to those sorts of movies at a very young age didn't seem to harm me. Nor did it seem to harm any of my siblings, or the numerous other friends and acquaintances I've had who were allowed to watch those sorts of films as young children.

It's the sort of thing that leads me to wonder if the content rating system has any real merit at all. I'm not sure it does. If a parent feels their child can handle the movie, I don't see why they should be assaulted for allowing them to watch it.
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Some parents have weird priorities. I've seen 6-8 year old kids waiting for their parents in a mall playground in the middle of night while their parents (probably single moms) are getting wasted in a nearby bar. They didn't even seem to be that shocked or anything (I've seen that happening more than once), which is weird. They were just playing with the other kids. You'd think that waiting for your drunken parent(s) to come get you from a dark, gloomy deserted mall (everything except pubs and bars are closed after 22:00 and most lights are out too) that is surrounded by loud drunken teenagers, occasional drug addicts and such would be atleast a little traumatizing for a young kid :?
AppleQueso wrote: It's the sort of thing that leads me to wonder if the content rating system has any real merit at all. I'm not sure it does. If a parent feels their child can handle the movie, I don't see why they should be assaulted for allowing them to watch it.
So should young kids be able to go watch Japanese gore and porn movies whenever they feel like it (if their parents dont care)? Slaughtered Vomit Dolls, Tokyo Gore police, August Underground’s Mordum, violent rape porn, all that good stuff.
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Menegrothx wrote:Some parents have weird priorities. I've seen 6-8 year old kids waiting for their parents in a mall playground in the middle of night while their parents (probably single moms) are getting wasted in a nearby bar. They didn't even seem to be that shocked or anything (I've seen that happening more than once), which is weird. They were just playing with the other kids. You'd think that waiting for your drunken parent(s) to come get you from a dark, gloomy deserted mall (everything except pubs and bars are closed after 22:00 and most lights are out too) that is surrounded by loud drunken teenagers, occasional drug addicts and such would be atleast a little traumatizing for a young kid :?
That's a whole 'nother parenting ballpark than what movies you let your kids watch. :shock:
AppleQueso wrote: It's the sort of thing that leads me to wonder if the content rating system has any real merit at all. I'm not sure it does. If a parent feels their child can handle the movie, I don't see why they should be assaulted for allowing them to watch it.
So should young kids be able to go watch Japanese gore and porn movies whenever they feel like it (if their parents dont care)? Slaughtered Vomit Dolls, Tokyo Gore police, August Underground’s Mordum, violent rape porn, all that good stuff.
Hi strawman.
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Whoa nelly with the name calling.

Walter Sobchak: You have no frame of reference.

Without context, it's hard to judge the parent(s).

I agree that taking a six year old to a movie that follows TDK at Midnight is in very poor judgment. I would also assume it was the parents who wanted to see the film.

But, ya never know. It could have been the kids birthday wish, or it could have been a Father and Son night where the kid begged to see the movie.

King would have been better to phrase his case as: "No way, no how is my six year old going to see a PG-13 movie and stay up until 4am. That's irresponsible".

And yeah, with a half hour of trailers, a three hour movie, and a drive home, the kid (had he stayed awake) would have been up until 4am. That's not smart parenting.

Dave would have been better to say: "You don't know the circumstances."
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AppleQueso wrote:
It's the sort of thing that leads me to wonder if the content rating system has any real merit at all. I'm not sure it does. If a parent feels their child can handle the movie, I don't see why they should be assaulted for allowing them to watch it.
It does.

Kids can't see the movies without a parent or guardian. Theaters still check ID's.

Plus, the mpaa is a money making machine that dictates what we see on screen. Ratings change sales numbers like you wouldn't believe.
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Luke wrote:
AppleQueso wrote:
It's the sort of thing that leads me to wonder if the content rating system has any real merit at all. I'm not sure it does. If a parent feels their child can handle the movie, I don't see why they should be assaulted for allowing them to watch it.
It does.

Kids can't see the movies without a parent or guardian. Theaters still check ID's.

Plus, the mpaa is a money making machine that dictates what we see on screen. Ratings change sales numbers like you wouldn't believe.
I'm just kinda thinking out loud. Are there any studies that show that a child who's allowed to watch PG-13 movies growing up develops differently in any significant way to a child who's only allowed to watch G and PG rated stuff?

I imagine JT might know.
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AppleQueso wrote: Hi strawman.
How is that a strawman? You said it makes you question if the rating system has any real merit at all, and I asked you if you really think that way even if it's the extreme cases we're talking about. If you question the system as a whole, it shouldn't matter whether it's a harmless action movie or a snuff movie, let the parents decide.
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Luke wrote:Whoa nelly with the name calling.

Walter Sobchak: You have no frame of reference.

Without context, it's hard to judge the parent(s).

I agree that taking a six year old to a movie that follows TDK at Midnight is in very poor judgment. I would also assume it was the parents who wanted to see the film.

But, ya never know. It could have been the kids birthday wish, or it could have been a Father and Son night where the kid begged to see the movie.

King would have been better to phrase his case as: "No way, no how is my six year old going to see a PG-13 movie and stay up until 4am. That's irresponsible".

And yeah, with a half hour of trailers, a three hour movie, and a drive home, the kid (had he stayed awake) would have been up until 4am. That's not smart parenting.

Dave would have been better to say: "You don't know the circumstances."
It was actually a girl....btw is Batman popular in the states with little girls?
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Seeing all these comments about people taking their young children to see possibly improper movies reminds me of something that happened "back in the day". Geez do I sound old. I remember when the movie Porky's had just opened in the theater. At one later showing ~9:00 or so, I saw a man with what had to be a 4 or 5 year old waiting in line for the movie.
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^Those studies usually deal more with "movie violence" than mpaa ratings.
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