what's your marital status?

[sbk]

Actually the Sabbath is on Saturday, not Sunday. But anyway though I agree with Inazuma on marriage I don't think it is a money reason why I am mostly disagree with marriage. To quote Doug Stanhope " Signing a contract saying that you will love someone forever is like signing one that you will be lucky forever." Also I understand the tax benefits to it but I really just do not want the government involved in my life, much less my relationship. If your religious then go for it but I still maintain that until the gays can then I won't.

I do honestly think a lot of you are letting love blind you in what your saying and that's fine because that's kind of what love does to people but realistically if marriage didn't exist would you create it (idea by Doug Stanhope. I give credit where credit is due.)?

Most marriages do end in divorce. Most relationships don't last. I hope all of you the best in your relationships whether it is marriage or not. I know how hard making one work is. Love is not an easy thing to maintain regardless what shitty Hollywood movies say and I applaud anyone who has been in one for longer then 2 years.

[StuntDouble]

Jmustang86, you pretty much took the words out of my mouth. Except for the religious aspect. It's easy to end things with a boyfriend or girlfriend. Pack up your crap and get out. It's much harder to dissolve a marriage. To me, marriage is a symbol that you plan on putting in an effort to make things last, rather than just bailing out at the first argument.

sbk,

Maybe instead of saying we will love each other forever, we should say we plan on loving each other forever.

[Inazuma]

You didnt read again. I never love doesn't exist without marriage. I said I got married because I love my wife

But you already loved her before the marriage. The marriage itself has no affect on love. It is completely separate. That's not an actual reason to get married at all.

Then by your train of thought, you shouldn't drive either. There is a chance you could get in an accident and die or be seriously injured, better to stay at home and never leave.

Bad analogy. There is an actual benefit to travel. If you want to go somewhere, you have to travel. If you want to love someone and live with them, you can do it without being married.

The correct analogy would be someone who works at home, getting in their car, driving around town and then returning to the house again, just to work. It's ridiculous to waste your time and take on the risk of having an accident for no benefit.

"Hey Joe. Why do you drive around town everyday? You work at home right?"
"You don't get it man. I have to get to work."
"Uh, but you work at home. You don't need to drive anywhere. You are already there!"
"You still don't get it, do you? I drive to work because I have to work."

Some stuff is hers, some is mine and it isnt about giving her money. I will tell you I am very happy, and would much rather her be here than gone. What good is money if you aren't happy? But marriage is sharing your life with each other. Are you an only child?

I am curious your age and profession. Not to judge you, but to help shed light on your point of view and give me perspective.

Once again, you can be happy and spend your life with someone, and not be married.

"What good is money if you aren't happy?" If you are smart enough to use money right, it should enhance your quality of life. It can make you even happier. You know that. Stop lying about money not being important.

Rather or not I am a believer, you and I are not the ones to say God is real or not. I doubt it, but I cannot say it isn't true. But this is where you falter. It is true to them. Religious people live off a faith. God may not be physically real, but the corporeal entity is real to them and thus affects their lives and gives importance in their life.
Is love true or real? Or is it a pleasure response of endorphins to your brain to someone who pleases you? These are beliefs and ideals and are real to the people, because that is what they believe in.

If you really believe in God, how come you constantly disobey him? Why are you wasting your time arguing with me, when you could just pray to God and have him change the world so everything you are saying is true?

The actuality of it is that I am a happily married person who would regret every day that I wasnt married to my wife.

If you never got married, how would things be any different?

[sbk]

I'm sorry but the only difference between my relationship and your marriage is a piece of paper. And that piece of paper does make yours harder to get out of I agree but I think when I say I LOVE YOU then that is a pretty big sign of my commitment to this thing we got going on. (And before you say that everyone can just say i love you and it is used so loosely well so is marriage and that is why 50% of them end in divorce.)

That paper only makes things hard to get out of because you put yourself in that sitituation the in the first place. I don't need all that shit to validate my love for someone or prove that I am in it for the long haul.

I don't need paper to plan because I don't play D&D. =]

[Inazuma]

It is a legal and for some religious commitment to another person.

Wrong again. You can be committed to another person without being married. You could even go so far as to have the whole wedding ceremony and everything. The only difference being that you don't get a marriage contract. Try again please.

[sbk]

It is a legal and for some religious commitment to another person.

Wrong again. You can be committed to another person without being married. You could even go so far as to have the whole wedding ceremony and everything. The only difference being that you don't get a marriage contract. Try again please.

Inazuma, I think you should calm down. Though you and I think alike on this we are not going to convince them and they won't convince us. We are all getting worked up over something that isn't going to change. They aren't going to win and neither are we.

I am up for letting this all be solved over a high score game of Bust-A-Move though. Just saying.

[Inazuma]

Actually the Sabbath is on Saturday, not Sunday.

Thank you for correcting me. (^_^)

[Jmustang1968]

But you already loved her before the marriage. The marriage itself has no affect on love. It is completely separate. That's not an actual reason to get married at all.

It is a commitment and a show of respect to your spouse and her family as well.

Bad analogy. There is an actual benefit to travel. If you want to go somewhere, you have to travel. If you want to love someone and live with them, you can do it without being married.

It is about as good as your drunk driver analogy...

Once again, you can be happy and spend your life with someone, and not be married.

"What good is money if you aren't happy?" If you are smart enough to use money right, it should enhance your quality of life. It can make you even happier. You know that. Stop lying about money not being important.

You cant buy love. You are completely missing the point of my argument there as well. Never did I say money isnt important and that it couldnt increase quality of life. But it doesnt do you much good if you are unhappy.

If you really believe in God, how come you constantly disobey him? Why are you wasting your time arguing with me, when you could just pray to God and have him change the world so everything you are saying is true?

This is when I really question why I am even bothering to respond as you clearly arent reading what I am saying. I am not religious... And even if that was what I was saying, your response still leaves me baffled as it is out there...

If you never got married, how would things be any different?

I wouldnt be happily married to my wife obviously

[Inazuma]

Inazuma, I think you should calm down. Though you and I think alike on this we are not going to convince them and they won't convince us. We are all getting worked up over something that isn't going to change. They aren't going to win and neither are we.

I am up for letting this all be solved over a high score game of Bust-A-Move though. Just saying.

I know truth and logic don't work on most people, but I still try anyway. I have a strong desire to help others.

But yeah, maybe I should take a break. Hopefully this will cause some people to actually think about things for once. It only takes a slight doubt to get the ball rolling, and then before you know it, you are able to think for yourself. I know because it happened to me.

[Jmustang1968]

It is a legal and for some religious commitment to another person.

Wrong again. You can be committed to another person without being married. You could even go so far as to have the whole wedding ceremony and everything. The only difference being that you don't get a marriage contract. Try again please.

you try again, you didnt address either the legal or religious commitment marriage implies. It is somewhat symbolic in nature. An act that you give up freedoms that is showing your significant other your willingness to commit to them and show love. Now, if 50% of the population takes those commitments lightly, that is their problem. I take my commitments and vows to my wife seriously.