what's your marital status?

[Inazuma]

Well, unless she knows I'm going to hit it rich in the future, she's the one with all the money.

Your logic is still failing to be logical, but to each their own..

So in this case, you are the gold digger. Unless you signed a prenup? Please tell me you did, and aren't just marrying her for the money.

"You're a gold digger because your wife is rich."

That might be the stupidest assumption I've ever seen you make.

Marriage is about money. You will have to learn the hard way, I guess.

[AppleQueso]

Have you ever held a single view on marriage that doesn't assume that failure is an inevitability?

[Jmustang1968]

Actually, if you ask your woman to sign a prenup and she refuses, then you know she only wants to marry you for money. If she agrees to it, then she actually loves you.

Of course, you shouldn't get married in the first place. But if you absolutely must get married, asking her to sign a prenup is a way to test her and see if she loves you.

not getting married > married with prenup > married without prenup
keep all your money > losing a little money > losing half your money

To many asking for a prenup would be considered an insult as a sign you do not trust her. I think your logic is backwards. It is not a test of if they are just after money. I think there is a very small % of people who marry with money going in that should really think about a prenup...

Why shouldnt you get married?

You are failing to see the many financial and others benefits of being married.

- Very nice tax breaks
- you can put each other on health insurance plans
- seamless transfer of property upon a death of a spouse
- ER visitation rights
- favorable loan rates
- discounted auto insurance
- getting paid leave from work for a spouse illness

[Jmustang1968]

Marriage is about money. You will have to learn the hard way, I guess.

No, not really. It is a factor yes. There are some monetary benefits and strains that go with marriage, but it isnt just about money.

[Inazuma]

Have you ever held a single view on marriage that doesn't assume that failure is an inevitability?

I'd rather not take unnecessary risks, thank you. Why risk losing half my money when I don't have to? Especially since there is no benefit for me to get married anyway.

And by the way, everyone thinks their marriage will last forever. If they thought that they would get divorced, they wouldn't get married in the first place. Half of all marriages end in divorce.

If you really like the idea of taking on risks with no benefit, knock yourself out. You have the right to make horrible decisions. Don't let silly things like logic, facts or statistics get in your way.

[Jmustang1968]

Have you ever held a single view on marriage that doesn't assume that failure is an inevitability?

I'd rather not take unnecessary risks, thank you. Why risk losing half my money when I don't have to? Especially since there is no benefit for me to get married anyway.

And by the way, everyone thinks their marriage will last forever. If they thought that they would get divorced, they wouldn't get married in the first place. Half of all marriages end in divorce.

If you really like the idea of taking on risks with no benefit, knock yourself out. You have the right to make horrible decisions. Don't let silly things like logic, facts or statistics get in your way.

You and logic dont quite go hand in hand...

[harper]

Don't let silly things like logic, facts or statistics get in your way.

Yeah there's this weird thing called love that usually gets in the way of that, and it's responsible for the other half of marriages that don't end in divorce.

[AppleQueso]

Have you ever held a single view on marriage that doesn't assume that failure is an inevitability?

I'd rather not take unnecessary risks, thank you. Why risk losing half my money when I don't have to? Especially since there is no benefit for me to get married anyway.

Yeah, for you. If you don't think it's worth it, that's your own deal.

If you really like the idea of taking on risks with no benefit, knock yourself out. You have the right to make horrible decisions. Don't let silly things like logic, facts or statistics get in your way.

Except you know, all those benefits that Jmustang1968 listed. Sorry I'm being such a horrible illogical person for wanting to have my girlfriend covered on my health insurance.

I can't believe I'm buying into more Inazumabait. Seriously I think you do this shit on purpose.

[StuntDouble]

irixith,

After reading your post, I decided to do a little research into prenuptial agreements. I have to admit, I was surprised to find that they aren't just for people trying to hold on to their money in the event of a divorce. Basically, it gives the two of you the power to decide what happens to your joint finances and property in the event of your divorce or the death of a spouse. Otherwise, the court would do your financial planning for you and in many cases one person or the other gets seriously f-ed over.


I have to admit I feel a bit more comfortable with the notion of a prenup agreement. I don't think they're essential or even necessary for everyone, and though I don't think it would be necessary for myself, I would enter in to one if it meant the two of us would be better off in the event of a divorce or death.

Inazuma,

Hopefully this will be the last of the thread drift, you said you wouldn't get married without a valid reason. I'm just curious what you consider a valid reason.

[Inazuma]

To many asking for a prenup would be considered an insult as a sign you do not trust her. I think your logic is backwards. It is not a test of if they are just after money. I think there is a very small % of people who marry with money going in that should really think about a prenup...

Why shouldnt you get married?

You are failing to see the many financial and others benefits of being married.

- Very nice tax breaks
- you can put each other on health insurance plans
- seamless transfer of property upon a death of a spouse
- ER visitation rights
- favorable loan rates
- discounted auto insurance
- getting paid leave from work for a spouse illness

Half of all marriages end in divorce. That is a statistical fact. Money is the reason to NOT get married. Everything you listed besides the visitation rights are based on money.

So what if you can save some money on those things, when you have a 50% chance of losing a massive amount of money in the end? And this is assuming you get a cheap ring and cheap wedding, and the man and women keep their bank accounts separate and pay for their own stuff. It's very common for the man to pay a lot for a ring, the wedding, and pay for some of the woman's bills during marriage, so that by itself would easily cancel out your list.

You gotta be realistic, or there is a very good chance you will get fucked over someday. Once again, marriage is about money. It is a legal contract that combines the money and property of two people into one. That's all it does. It is not about love whatsoever.