Shantae Risky's Revenge - 10/4/2010 release date

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Inazuma wrote:I would totally buy it if it was a physical DS release.
So you would get it only if there was a physical release for the Japanese market? The cost would be higher than DSiware, at least $19 if not more. The download version is $12.

I did try it briefly at lunch time and yes, it has virtual d-pad/buttons. I can see why someone would get frustrated with it.
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Inazuma wrote:I would totally buy it if it was a physical DS release.
So you would get it only if there was a physical release for the Japanese market? The cost would be higher than DSiware, at least $19 if not more. The download version is $12.

I did try it briefly at lunch time and yes, it has virtual d-pad/buttons. I can see why someone would get frustrated with it.
I'd buy the American version if there was no Japanese version. The DS is region free so it would work fine. Yeah, it would cost more than a download version, but at least I could own it that way. I would never buy something from DSiware because there is no ownership.

I want to buy the American GBC Shantae game, but it's expensive as fuck.

I will buy the occasional non-Japanese region game if there is no Japanese version or if the Japanese version is inferior. I bought the American version of Tetrisphere for N64 recently.
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Save your pennies, Shantae is totally worth it. I wasn't kidding when I named it #1 best GBC game of all time - It's like Castlevania 2 + Metroid + Zelda dungeons. It's not a Metroidvania, its much more similar to the Castlevania 2/Faxanadau/Battle o Olympus mold, but unlike those games, it's actually incredibly good.

I know how you feel about Shantae Risky's Revenge. If it were available in physical form I'd double dip and buy it again for sure, but you have to understand that Wayforward is still a tiny developer and publishers don't want to take risks when it comes to Wayforward's own IPs.

Without digital download services like the DSiware, the Shantae sequel would probably would have never been released.

It is seriously good enough to buy a DSi over.
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Physical release or not, I'd buy it on DSiWare if I had a DSi simply because I'd want to support Wayforward.
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AppleQueso wrote:Physical release or not, I'd buy it on DSiWare if I had a DSi simply because I'd want to support Wayforward.
The first thing I'm going to buy when I get a 3DS is Shantae: Risky's Revenge. :D
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Inazuma wrote:What a shame this game is only on American DSi's and the iphone. I would totally buy it if it was a physical DS release.
Same here. Heres hoping for a REAL release.
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Satoshi_Matrix wrote:Save your pennies, Shantae is totally worth it. I wasn't kidding when I named it #1 best GBC game of all time - It's like Castlevania 2 + Metroid + Zelda dungeons. It's not a Metroidvania, its much more similar to the Castlevania 2/Faxanadau/Battle o Olympus mold, but unlike those games, it's actually incredibly good.

I know how you feel about Shantae Risky's Revenge. If it were available in physical form I'd double dip and buy it again for sure, but you have to understand that Wayforward is still a tiny developer and publishers don't want to take risks when it comes to Wayforward's own IPs.

Without digital download services like the DSiware, the Shantae sequel would probably would have never been released.

It is seriously good enough to buy a DSi over.
If DSiware was DRM free like GoG on the PC, I would consider buying it. But it isn't so there is no way I can support it.

I do want the GBC game, especially with you giving it such high praise. It's fucking expensive but at least it's possible to own it.
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GSZX1337 wrote:
AppleQueso wrote:Physical release or not, I'd buy it on DSiWare if I had a DSi simply because I'd want to support Wayforward.
The first thing I'm going to buy when I get a 3DS is Shantae: Risky's Revenge. :D
I will get a 3DS one day when the XL version comes out. If you don't have a DS, I highly recommend getting a DSi XL. It's my favorite handheld. The screens are gorgeous, battery life is excellent, and you have DSiware capability.

I still do enjoy my GBA SP & PSP but the XL is my favorite. I still remember getting it by trading a gas power washer that I never used for the device and 8 games. The guy had owned it for 2 weeks and didn't have time to play. His wife wanted him to sell it and get a power washer. Win win for both of us.
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AppleQueso wrote:Physical release or not, I'd buy it on DSiWare if I had a DSi simply because I'd want to support Wayforward.
I feel the same way. Wayforward is an amazing developer and they need as much support as they can get.
GSZX1337 wrote: The first thing I'm going to buy when I get a 3DS is Shantae: Risky's Revenge. :D
That's pretty much the whole reason I bought a DSi XL. Get Shantae any way you can, but I've got a friend who bought it on his 3DS but DS games just don't look quite right on the 3DS. It's hard to put my finger on it, but if I were you I'd save up and get a DSi XL instead. bigger screens, bigger stylus and DS games don't look distorted on it.
SuperAnthony64 wrote:Same here. Heres hoping for a REAL release.
As in, a physical release? that probably will never happen. Wayforward doesn't have the kind of raw muscle when it comes to sales figures to convince publishers to put out physical versions of games developed by Wayforward featuring Wayforward IPs. Capcom took a chance on the original Shantae nine years ago, and although it is by far the best game on the GBC, it was a real bust financially, and not being able to find a publisher was the primary cause for Shantae Advance to be cancelled and abandoned. I'd love a Shantae Risky's Revenge cart as much as anyone, but again, it won't happen because no publisher is willing to take a risk on it. Thank god for DSiware or we probably would NEVER see it.

Inazuma wrote:If DSiware was DRM free like GoG on the PC, I would consider buying it. But it isn't so there is no way I can support it.

I do want the GBC game, especially with you giving it such high praise. It's fucking expensive but at least it's possible to own it.
I know exaclty how you feel because up until about two years ago I felt the exact same way. So yeah I don't mean to offend you, but man, you really need to just get over yourself. DRM will not go away and will only continue to expand in the future. It is not inconceivable to say that in another decade, all videogames will be download-only. Like it or not, its where the industry is headed and there's no stopping it.

The only thing your doing by refusing to buy Shantae 2 is robbing yourself the experience of what is easily one of the best platforming games ever made.

For the most part I agree with you and I want to fight the good fight against DRM and the digital download future too, but there are some games just too good to pass up on that are only available digitally, and Shantae is among them.

On the side of the original Shantae, the overall experience is too great to ignore due to the price. Unlike some games that are rare, Shantae is an absolute gem and will be worth whatever price you can find it for. I bought a copy for a friend last year for Christmas that cost me $120 cart only. Pricy yes, but so worth it. It's a brilliant game, and the sequel is even more so.

gtmtnbiker wrote: If you don't have a DS, I highly recommend getting a DSi XL. It's my favorite handheld. The screens are gorgeous, battery life is excellent, and you have DSiware capability.

I still do enjoy my GBA SP & PSP but the XL is my favorite. I still remember getting it by trading a gas power washer that I never used for the device and 8 games. The guy had owned it for 2 weeks and didn't have time to play. His wife wanted him to sell it and get a power washer. Win win for both of us.

I totally agree with that. The XL is by far the best version of the DS. Very large, vivid screens, awesome huge stylus, loud speakers, good battery life, DSiware, and the DSTWO flashcart. The only real negative is that the system is a bit on the heavy side, making long play sessions hard on the hands. I thought for the longest time I'd be happy just with my DS Lite, but man the difference between the models is about as pronounced as the difference between the launch GBA to the GBA SP 2.0 Backlit model. Just like night and day.
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Satoshi_Matrix wrote: I know exaclty how you feel because up until about two years ago I felt the exact same way. So yeah I don't mean to offend you, but man, you really need to just get over yourself. DRM will not go away and will only continue to expand in the future. It is not inconceivable to say that in another decade, all videogames will be download-only. Like it or not, its where the industry is headed and there's no stopping it.

The only thing your doing by refusing to buy Shantae 2 is robbing yourself the experience of what is easily one of the best platforming games ever made.

For the most part I agree with you and I want to fight the good fight against DRM and the digital download future too, but there are some games just too good to pass up on that are only available digitally, and Shantae is among them.
It's very interesting how you suggest people buy both Shantae games and that you would robbing yourself if you passed them up. The GBC game may be expensive but at least it's legally obtainable. The DSiware game will only be available for a few years and then it will be gone when it's taken off the server. Hacking and piracy will be the only possible way to acquire the game in the future.

I know you still buy and play Famicom games. You of all people should be against this form of DRM. Retro gaming will be illegal in the future because gamers like you didn't think ahead. Imagine if you didn't have any physical games and only had emulators. Does that sound better to you?

It absolutely kills me not to be able to play most modern games. I would love to be playing that new Daytona USA game online right now. I would have so much fun with the Hatsune Miku Project Diva DLC for the PSP and PS3. But I'm just not selfish enough to do it. I think ownership and retro gaming are more important than playing today's cool modern games.
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