Super Mario 2 (Doki Doki Panic) Vs. The Lost Levels

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TornadoCreator wrote:The Lost Levels is a damn ROM hack. Someone took the original Super Mario Bros. and made a damn ROM hack and dared to call it a sequel. It's awful, the difficulty curve varies wildly, the levels consist of more and more variants of the "rediculously difficult jump" gimmick, and the castle puzzles are so unintuitive that I gave up and never actually beat this game, only seeing the ending because of a let's play, which is a bullshit ending too. Just because the guy who made this ROM hack happens to have been working at Nintendo at the time doesn't make this anything special. If you want hard Mario find a download of the fan-made game Super Mario Bros. X, that's awesome and really, genuinely hard, not increasing levels of unfair.

Hidden blocks we couldn't possibly know about, stupid puzzles, pixel perfect jumps that require leap of faith gameplay as the single block platform is off screen along with the projectile that a split second after landing will kill you if you don't already know to jump again... this is not a game, this is torture... and I've beaten Battletoads.

It's not that Lost Levels is hard, it's actually not really, not compared to a lot of other games. It's that it's BAD! The game is infuriating and unfair, and quite frankly I'd rather stay home and play with my dick... Super Mario Bros. 2, with the lifting and throwing mechanics, and what to me, felt like slightly non-linear platforming. Now that is a good game.
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I think its pretty obvious that re-skinning Doki Doki Panic was an incredibly smart move on Nintendo's part.
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AppleQueso wrote:I think its pretty obvious that re-skinning Doki Doki Panic was an incredibly smart move on Nintendo's part.
Its more than a reskinning. They changed alot of the timing, a couple of the enemy placements, and most importantly, added b button running.
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Looks like I learned something new then.

I also learned today that Doki Doki Panic actually started out as a Mario game early in development before being made into Doki Doki Panic before being turned back into a Mario game.
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From what I understand the original Doki Doki forced you to use one character throughout aswell.

Either way, I much prefer SMB2US to Lost Levels. I'm not even that big a fan of the original super mario bros, last thing I wanted was a more annoying, harder version of it. SMB2 however is one of my favourites in the series, whether people want to consider it part of the series or not.
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AppleQueso wrote:Looks like I learned something new then.

I also learned today that Doki Doki Panic actually started out as a Mario game early in development before being made into Doki Doki Panic before being turned back into a Mario game.
Ironically the character that looked like Mario initially, became Toad.

I took screenshots on some of the visual changes for the bossman a couple years ago:
http://www.racketboy.com/retro/nintendo ... rison.html
I need to get back into doing that...
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Super Mario Bros. 2 USA all the way. It's a bit different from the original formula but a fun, fun game. The lost levels is just Super Mario Bros. with crazy difficulty. Nothing new really besides that.
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Doki Doki is a great game. It's far more interesting than Lost Levels.
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noiseredux wrote:Doki Doki is a great game. It's far more interesting than Lost Levels.
I'm glad most of us think the same. I really enjoy playing Super Mario Bros. 2 but it gets so many bad comments because it's different. Just like Zelda II. Another one of my favorite Nes games that gets bashed quite a bit.
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Gnashvar wrote:
noiseredux wrote:Doki Doki is a great game. It's far more interesting than Lost Levels.
I'm glad most of us think the same. I really enjoy playing Super Mario Bros. 2 but it gets so many bad comments because it's different. Just like Zelda II. Another one of my favorite Nes games that gets bashed quite a bit.
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