Console Wars: Like v. Like

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Re: Console Wars: Like v. Like

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My picks:
Atari: none, I was on Apple & Tandy then
NES: AV Famicom, can use the Nintendo AV cable for it, SNES, & N64, 3-in-1 (GC I do component)
GB: Pocket, loved that one, I could hide it behind a SNES cart :D
SNES (NTSC): can play almost everything just by cutting two tabs
Genesis: v2, like the shape better (though I think most people say the video is worse - only played on RF though)
PS1: had both, sold the PSone as I only play PS1 games on the PS2 or 3, PS1 hardware is irrelevant for games I play
PS2: Slim, my fat one died, no other real reason I guess, though I miss the tray-loading
PS3: Slim, not a power hog and supposedly less susceptible to YLOD
360: Slim, they finally finished making the 360 with this model, it works now
GBA: SP, I can see my games and play GB/GBC
DS: Lite, GBA+DS in a great size, would like to go XL but not giving up the GBA slot
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Atari "Darth Vader" Its simpler than the older ones so less to mess up and not as cheaply built as the Jr.

NES "toaster" but the Famicom in a close second. The NES with its AV already there and controls that aren't built in. The main advantage of the famicom would be the sound chip, no blinky, and built in mic. The toploader while more reliable and more comfortable controller is rf only and the vertical lines are annoying.

Sega Master System US The 2 takes away too many features AV and card slot. I think the Mark III looks the coolest and love that its backward compatible with Mark I, but there aren't many JP only games that interest me.

Pc-engine Duo RX Easy to mod, more reliable and best turbo controller.

GB v. GB Pocket can I vote GBC?

SNES (NTSC) While I find the SFC prettier, its alot easier to play imports on the US SNES. The Jr doesn't have s-video so I didn't even consider it.

Genesis 2 This one is a hard one. I love the look of the model two it goes well with the scd 2 and 32x combo, but it doesn't have the best sound. Now with the model ones they aren't all equal in quality so it make it hard to choose that one, plus I don't like the heaphones jack use with the sega cd.

Sega CD model 2 I added this one, more reliable and better looking.

Magnavox CD-i The flip top design, smaller console, better controller with system, easier to find and install VCD

3DO FZ-10 It feels cheaper made then the FZ-1 but no disc to access memory management is a plus. The gold star is awful, but I would like to aquire a Sanyo Try.

Saturn Round Button I added this one also, easy to mod. The oval button looks slightly better but I heard its less reliable. A Hitachi Saturn would be nice too.

PlayStation It may not be as reliable but some models have great sound and easy to mod to play imports.

PS2 The slim again may be more reliable but no HDD support and it has problems playing certain games.

Lynx Model 2 Why would anyone chose the first model unless they like their handhelds bulkier

GBA SP There is no contest here, back lit and flip top. The only gripe is that the small size can sometimes hurt my hands.

DSL tie DSiXL The DSL for GBA and the dsi xl for the huge screen and extra features.
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AppleQueso wrote:The only problem with some of these are that some of the variations are simply better from an objective standpoint.

SNES model 1 > model 2 because the model 2 doesn't support s-video without modding
NES Toaster > NES toploader because the latter doesn't' support av without modding
Genesis 1 has better sound than 2 and 3 doesn't support any of the addons

etc etc.

Unless you're only asking about aesthetics.
How does that make them better from an objective stand point? Some people don't have the space so smaller is better to them. Plus the top loader being more reliable sounds as good if not better than the NES av out. There are other factors than looks and out put that makes a system better for an individual. For instance you may find the NES toploder controller more comfortable or you don't like using the headphone jack out on the Genesis model 1 on your sega cd. You may hate the eject button on the SNES/SFC and prefer to just pulling the game out on the snes jr.

The only way any of these can be better from and ojective standpoint is for the revisions to have all of what another version had plus more. But it seems every revision added something and also took something away.
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NES Toaster (because of AV support)
Original model SNES (because it looks better, and for S-video support)
Genesis Model 1 (because it looks really cool, and it supports all of the add-ons. And headphone jack FTW!)
PSone (less delicate, looks much nicer, and doesn't have an uber ugly system menu like the PS1)
PS2 Fat (because I know how to fix these pretty well when they break down, and for nostalgia reasons)
PS3 Slim (more reliable, smaller)
Xbox 360 Slim (more reliable, smaller, built-in WiFi)
GBA SP Model AGS 101, Graphite or Spongebob (best screen you can get on a GBA)
DSi XL, Red Mario edition (best screen you can get for a DS, and it has all of the DSi features. The lack of GBA compatability doesn't matter when coupled with the GBA right above)
PSP 3000, Piano Black (better screen than the 1000 and 2000, has a UMD drive unlike the Go, built-in microphone, better battery life than the 1000)

You forgot the PSP in your OP, o.pwuaioc.
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- Master System model MK-2000, NTSC-J has few improvements over original
- Mega Drive model 1, NTSC-J is my favorite of the MD's, aesthetics & sound chip & no need to cut the cartridge slot if I'm correct
- Mega CD model 2, (NTSC-J) more reliable, but prefer aesthetics of first one
- PC Engine Duo-R of all the PC Engine versions, practical and very nice looking
- SNES, really hard to decide, any of them will do, NTSC might be easiest to mod run all regions
- Saturn model 2, looks nicer and easier to mod
- Fat models for Playstation consoles, including PSP
- DS Lite; runs GBA, brighter screen & more practical size than original
- GBA SP II; back-lit, nicer to hold and backwards compatibility compared to Micro

For me backwards compatibility > reliability & build quality > easiness of modding > aesthetics > size. Top-loading disc drive whenever possible.
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Atari VCS v. Atari "Wood Veneer" v. Atari "Darth Vader" v. Atari 2600 Jr.

Eh, I just happily use the 7800 to play all my 2600 hundred games but if I had to pick then the Darth Vader for aesthetics.

NES "toaster" v. NES toploader v. Famicom

I consider the Famicom almost a different system then the NES and wouldn't pick it over the other two but rather have it in addition to one of them. Between the toaster and the toploader...I pick the toploader for aesthetics and build quality but I've already considering looking into A/V modding mine because of the terrible picture quality I get.

GB v. GB Pocket

Original. Nostalgia.

SNES (NTSC) v. SNES (PAL/NTSCJ) v. SNES Jr. v. Super Famicom

SNES NTSC. I just like the way it looks.

Genesis Model 1 v. Genesis Model 2 v. Genesis Model 3

Model 2 because I really don't like the way the model one looks, plus I use it with the CD add-on so my sound quality is stellar. If I didn't care about the CD or 32X, then I would pick the model 3 cause it's tiny and I like that.

PlayStation v. PSOne

Original model because it was my teenage self's console and he hooked it up to a little antenna TV sitting on an old wooden step-stool in his blacklight-lit bedroom and would play games like FF7, Crash Bandicoot, and Tomb Raider into the wee hours of the night. Also, he modded it so it could play copies before he considered it bad, and then recently discovered that he inadvertently modded it to play other region games.

PS2 v. PS2 Slim

Biggie because hard drive possible.

PS3 v. PS3 Slim

The big 80GB one because it's fully backwards/compatible and has given me zero issues. It also has a crap-load of card slots. Just in case I want to jam several kinds of media cards in there at the same time. Plus, it's fucking shiny.

XBOX360 v. XBOX360 Slim

I don't really have any fondness or attachment to the XBOX360 but I think the slim is more pleasing to look at. My lady friend keeps a special edition Halo Reach one here and it's pretty swanky.

GBA v. GBA SP v. GB Micro

My Micro hurts my hands. My SP hurts my hands but is backwards compatible. My GBA is comfortable but has no backlight. GBA SP with backlight wins.

DS v. DSL v. DSi v. DSiXL

I have only used the DSLite and DSi, but don't really find either one very comfortable. I would go with DSLite because of backwards compatibility and it can use some add-ons that no longer work with the DSi.
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NES "toaster" because of the composite out
SNES (NTSC) S-video
Genesis Model 1 no tmss and better sound
XBOX360 Slim no RROD
GBA SP backlit screen plays gb/gbc games
DSL gba slot
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pepharytheworm wrote:
AppleQueso wrote:The only problem with some of these are that some of the variations are simply better from an objective standpoint.

SNES model 1 > model 2 because the model 2 doesn't support s-video without modding
NES Toaster > NES toploader because the latter doesn't' support av without modding
Genesis 1 has better sound than 2 and 3 doesn't support any of the addons

etc etc.

Unless you're only asking about aesthetics.
How does that make them better from an objective stand point? Some people don't have the space so smaller is better to them. Plus the top loader being more reliable sounds as good if not better than the NES av out. There are other factors than looks and out put that makes a system better for an individual. For instance you may find the NES toploder controller more comfortable or you don't like using the headphone jack out on the Genesis model 1 on your sega cd. You may hate the eject button on the SNES/SFC and prefer to just pulling the game out on the snes jr.

The only way any of these can be better from and ojective standpoint is for the revisions to have all of what another version had plus more. But it seems every revision added something and also took something away.
I guess I'm lumping 'size' in with 'looks'. I was going to argue that the toaster is just as reliable with a new connector, but I suppose that's a form of modding too...

I suppose you're right then, *shrug*.

I do have to point out though, you don't have to use the eject button on the SNES/SFC. Nothing is stopping out from just pulling the game out if you'd rather do that.
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Atari "Wood Veneer"
NES "toaster"
GB
SNES (NTSC)
Genesis Model 2
PSOne
PS2 Slim
PS3
XBOX360
GB Micro
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Atari 7800 seeing as it also plays Atari 2600 games.
NES top loader.
Master system model 1
Genesis model 1
TurboGrafx-16
SNES model 1 NTSC
N64 black.
Saturn model 1
Gamecube silver
Xbox 360 fat.
Wii black.
Gameboy SP
DSI XL
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