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MrPopo wrote:
All corporations are Greedy bastards!!
You do realize that companies exist in order to make money, right? And the main measure of success is how well they can make money. Do we really consider it a bad thing that companies want to ensure that they keep making money?
I personally have my doubts that a product's ability to produce a profit is an accurate measure of its worth in any meaningful sense. There is some overlap, but it is far from a 1:1 ratio between things that make a profit and things that deserve to make a profit. This may seem counter-intuitive in a capital-driven society, but I think it's perfectly excusable for individuals to criticize and reprimand over-zealous, dogmatic approaches to making money.

Think of it this way: we purchase products because we appreciate the way that they enhance our personal lives and society -- once a business begins adopting practices which we cannot construe to be for the benefit of ourselves (but rather for the sole benefit of the dollar), we see that in the long-term their practices are not good for us. "By the dollar, for the dollar" is a poor model for improving society -- there's a difference between the best rising to the top and the loudest rising to the top. The "well, it's all about money to begin with, so I shouldn't point any fingers" argument strikes me as calloused, and counter to the Adam Smith model of a free-market. If something pisses you off, it pisses you off whether it's profitable or not. If something in the market pisses you off, express yourself through protest and boycott.

Clearly, I'm not a cut-and-dry Capitalist, but I acknowledge that that's (predominantly) the society I live in. People need to realize that it's okay to be more radical in the way that they consume. I want for profit to be a by-product of a company's concern for ME, and I'll be an obnoxious shopper until that happens. Will it ever work? Probably not -- that's why many advocate adopting quasi-Socialist elements into many of our societies -- but Capitalism is economic democracy, and human-oriented business practices get my vote everytime.
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You misinterpreted my point. Calling a company greedy is like calling water wet. If you don't like their business practices you shouldn't purchase from them, but you should frame it as "I don't care for how they are treating me", not "they are evil because they want to make money".
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good thing i don't give a shit about modern gaming or this could have upset me.

but, it is bullshit. the consumer can do what the fuck they want with the product. what's next? nintendo going after the collectors who are selling sealed nintendo games for thousands of dollars?
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final fight cd wrote:good thing i don't give a shit about modern gaming or this could have upset me.

but, it is bullshit. the consumer can do what the fuck they want with the product. what's next? nintendo going after the collectors who are selling sealed nintendo games for thousands of dollars?
it would be interesting if these companies could boot up the old production line and make new copies of old games lol.
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Hazerd wrote:
final fight cd wrote:good thing i don't give a shit about modern gaming or this could have upset me.

but, it is bullshit. the consumer can do what the fuck they want with the product. what's next? nintendo going after the collectors who are selling sealed nintendo games for thousands of dollars?
it would be interesting if these companies could boot up the old production line and make new copies of old games lol.
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Hazerd wrote:
final fight cd wrote:good thing i don't give a shit about modern gaming or this could have upset me.

but, it is bullshit. the consumer can do what the fuck they want with the product. what's next? nintendo going after the collectors who are selling sealed nintendo games for thousands of dollars?
it would be interesting if these companies could boot up the old production line and make new copies of old games lol.
It happens sometimes with disc based games. GameQuest Direct is responsible for reprints of a lot of ps2 games for example.
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MrPopo wrote:You misinterpreted my point. Calling a company greedy is like calling water wet. If you don't like their business practices you shouldn't purchase from them, but you should frame it as "I don't care for how they are treating me", not "they are evil because they want to make money".
So if a pharmaceutical company was knowingly selling drugs that were infected with AIDS because the United States government allowed them to do so, you wouldn't consider them evil or greedy?

By the way, this example is not completely made up. Something like this actually happened.

Some companies try their best to make as much money as possible, by making high quality products and treating their customers right. And some companies try their best to make as much money as possible, by any and all means necessary. If they need to be underhanded and deceptive to make an extra buck, they won't hesitate to do so.

Sony CD root kit, anyone?
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Inazuma wrote:
MrPopo wrote:You misinterpreted my point. Calling a company greedy is like calling water wet. If you don't like their business practices you shouldn't purchase from them, but you should frame it as "I don't care for how they are treating me", not "they are evil because they want to make money".
So if a pharmaceutical company was knowingly selling drugs that were infected with AIDS because the United States government allowed them to do so, you wouldn't consider them evil or greedy?

By the way, this example is not completely made up. Something like this actually happened.

Some companies try their best to make as much money as possible, by making high quality products and treating their customers right. And some companies try their best to make as much money as possible, by any and all means necessary. If they need to be underhanded and deceptive to make an extra buck, they won't hesitate to do so.

Sony CD root kit, anyone?
Deplorable? Yes. Greedy? No.
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Inazuma wrote: So if a pharmaceutical company was knowingly selling drugs that were infected with AIDS because the United States government allowed them to do so, you wouldn't consider them evil or greedy?
for some odd reason this reminds me of Edge Of Darkness with Mel Gibson, and how that company lied...
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MrPopo wrote:
Inazuma wrote:
MrPopo wrote:You misinterpreted my point. Calling a company greedy is like calling water wet. If you don't like their business practices you shouldn't purchase from them, but you should frame it as "I don't care for how they are treating me", not "they are evil because they want to make money".
So if a pharmaceutical company was knowingly selling drugs that were infected with AIDS because the United States government allowed them to do so, you wouldn't consider them evil or greedy?

By the way, this example is not completely made up. Something like this actually happened.

Some companies try their best to make as much money as possible, by making high quality products and treating their customers right. And some companies try their best to make as much money as possible, by any and all means necessary. If they need to be underhanded and deceptive to make an extra buck, they won't hesitate to do so.

Sony CD root kit, anyone?
Deplorable? Yes. Greedy? No.
Just curious what is your defintion of greedy?
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