Action-Adventure... isn't

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Genres are generally fluid and subjective. Nearly anything in any medium that is unique in some way or another can be categorized under multiple genres, so to say that a specific genre does not exist simply because most games fall under other genres is sheer foolishness. If a genre describes one or more things, it exists.

Moreover, there are games that are best described as "Action-Adventure." The Zelda series effectively started it, I think. It denotes a game in which there is action, but in which the action is not necessarily the main focus, or at least not the sole focus. Like a traditional adventure game (Zork, King's Quest), there is an emphasis on exploration, inventory management, experimentation, puzzle-solving, and some kind of a "quest" narrative. An Action-Adventure game is goal driven rather than score driven--which was not yet an assumption as it is with most single-player games today. It has elements of an action game and elements of an adventure game: hence "Action-Adventure."

Looking back to the advent of the first Zelda game, no other genre could have better described the game. It lacked the vestiges of pen-and-paper games that define the "RPG" genre of video games. "Action" was considered a genre at the time, but would have been at odds with the adventure element of the game. "Adventure" was an established genre, but would have been at odds with the action element of the game. "Hack and Slash" was not a named genre at the time, as far as I am aware. Had it been, it would have described Gauntlet and little else. The name "Hack and Slash" describes games where the player must (often mindlessly) repetitively cut a swath through near-endless waves of enemies almost constantly. This does not describe any of the Zelda games, even if the genre existed at the time the first one was made. "Action-Adventure" is the best choice.

There are clearly other games that have followed the example of the Zelda games, so the genre is neither empty, or should it be a catch-all even though some may use it that way.


Just more food for thought, but Diablo belongs to a much older established genre of "Roguelike" games. Because Diablo and Diablo II are Roguelikes, and these are the primary example of a "hack and slash" does this render the "hack and slash" genre nonexistent? ;)
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What genre is Minecraft? (^_^);
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Inazuma wrote:What genre is Minecraft? (^_^);
First person shooter, duh.
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MrEco wrote:
Inazuma wrote:What genre is Minecraft? (^_^);
First person shooter, duh.
No, it's a hack-and-slash! ;)
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Minecraft? Clearly 3D platformer.
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Inazuma wrote:What genre is Minecraft? (^_^);
It's a hard one to define, but, I'd say it's an action-adventure sandbox.
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Inazuma wrote:What genre is Minecraft? (^_^);
Honestly, that ones stumped me. I suppose the closest genre (from the ones I listed) would be a strategy builder like Sim City for example, but that seems unsatisfying. To be honest, there are always the odd one or two films that defy classification, is it action/horror/comedy etc. I'm sure the same is true for gaming.
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Pfft, why do you douchebags have to subclassify everything past the point of being ridiculous? I mean for fuck's sake, Diablo is an isometric randomly generated maze game with random treasure, random monsters, and a stat and skill improvement system? I mean I've got board games, card games, and field games. I don't further divide and call them a city building board game or obscure fact checking board game. It isn't single player card sorting game and multi player pissing contest betting card game. Launching or carrying a projectile through a goal at the end of a large field game or timed distance traversal with or without obstacles, self motivated or with animal or mechanical enhancement? Bah!

Board game
Card game
Field game
Video game, because they're played on a video screen. Duh.

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Any further sub classification is pretentious.
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