Whelp, another reason to boycott Capcom.

[o.pwuaioc]

Wow. Not a fan of this move. If this were to ever become common practice, I would definitely never end up even trying any new games/consoles.

First of all...this. Second of all, why are people defending a practice that robs the youth of their chance to play this game? Where is someone who was born yesterday going to get this game in 20 years?

7. The industry (at least segments of it) are very worried about iPhone games. Wonder why? Perhaps it is because they think/know that that commercial games are a tad overpriced. Used game market cuts that a bit so maybe it is helping them without them knowing. Perhaps the industry should spend less money in cutting edge graphics, refine gameplay and sell the games at lower prices (like many indie devs and digital only games are doing). You can't even say "it doesn't sell" at the moment because obviously iPhone games can sell a lot of units and they do not have cutting edge graphics. But I'm a biased retro gamer of course.

This a million times over. No, a billion times over.

[MrEco]

This is just... infuriating. So you're telling me that If I finish playing the game and one of my three siblings wants to start a new game of there own they are fucked and can't do it? Dick move Capcom.

[Lone Wanderer]

isn't it like $14-19 for a new trade in?

Not necessarily. It varies a lot. I got $19 trade in for Mario Kart DS, which they sell for $35. That's more than I could have gotten for an incomplete game on eBay. Civilization Revolution DS, on the other hand, is only "worth" like $3. It goes for about $15 iirc. Red Dead Redemption, which sells for about $30, is only worth $15 in trade-in last time I checked. I sold it on eBay for $30 instead, since it was complete. All of these games aren't new, so they are a lot lower in trade-in.

[flamepanther]

This is seriously the most flawed argument ever. I've seen it a million times and it is pure 100% bullshit.

I don't see how it's any more flawed than the industry's argument that one pirated copy = 1 lost sale. That's 100% bullshit too.

But who knows really. But to say piracy shouldn't be counted as a lost sale is incorrect. You may not be able to count them all but you can't toss them out either.
I'm sure there have been many conversations like
"Hey, what are doing today?"
"Nothing just running to the store to get the new *Insert Generic Game here*, I'm really excited"
"Hey! I just downloaded that last night it was cracked at launch. Just come over and I'll burn it for you and we can play a few rounds."
"Awesome!"

I'm sure stuff like that happens all the time. However, if the potential buyer in your story is as keen on saving money as he appears to be, odds are strong that he would have bought a used copy--which of course still doesn't support the publisher or developer.

[BurningDoom]

This is seriously the most flawed argument ever. I've seen it a million times and it is pure 100% bullshit.

I don't see how it's any more flawed than the industry's argument that one pirated copy = 1 lost sale. That's 100% bullshit too.

But who knows really. But to say piracy shouldn't be counted as a lost sale is incorrect. You may not be able to count them all but you can't toss them out either.
I'm sure there have been many conversations like
"Hey, what are doing today?"
"Nothing just running to the store to get the new *Insert Generic Game here*, I'm really excited"
"Hey! I just downloaded that last night it was cracked at launch. Just come over and I'll burn it for you and we can play a few rounds."
"Awesome!"

I'm sure stuff like that happens all the time. However, if the potential buyer in your story is as keen on saving money as he appears to be, odds are strong that he would have bought a used copy--which of course still doesn't support the publisher or developer.

Or how about the the fact that stealing is stealing, period. And stealing is wrong. Buying a used copy is in no way, shape, or form the same as stealing.

[SuperAnthony64]

This is seriously the most flawed argument ever. I've seen it a million times and it is pure 100% bullshit.

I don't see how it's any more flawed than the industry's argument that one pirated copy = 1 lost sale. That's 100% bullshit too.

But who knows really. But to say piracy shouldn't be counted as a lost sale is incorrect. You may not be able to count them all but you can't toss them out either.
I'm sure there have been many conversations like
"Hey, what are doing today?"
"Nothing just running to the store to get the new *Insert Generic Game here*, I'm really excited"
"Hey! I just downloaded that last night it was cracked at launch. Just come over and I'll burn it for you and we can play a few rounds."
"Awesome!"

I'm sure stuff like that happens all the time. However, if the potential buyer in your story is as keen on saving money as he appears to be, odds are strong that he would have bought a used copy--which of course still doesn't support the publisher or developer.

Didnt the developer/publisher already get the money for that used game? It had to of been bought once to be used right?

[o.pwuaioc]

Or how about the the fact that stealing is stealing, period. And stealing is wrong. Buying a used copy is in no way, shape, or form the same as stealing.

This is what I'm genuinely confused on. All Capcom is doing is being greedy. Buying used games doesn't "hurt" companies, and it's not illegal. I can freely sell my desk, my lamp, used books (physical copies at least), my guitar, my speakers, heck, even any console I bought. What Capcom is doing is typical corporate bullshit, and no one should defend it. Defend their right to do it? Sure, but defend the act itself? Sorry.

(Btw, I really am selling my desk, lamp, many books, car speakers, and car radio if anyone is looking to buy. )

[MrEco]

Didnt the developer/publisher already get the money for that used game? It had to of been bought once to be used right?

Well, any person who buy's a used copy would have to buy a brand new copy instead if used game trading didn't exist.

Oh, and apparently EB games Australia is taking an Inazuma styled approach.

[SuperAnthony64]

Didnt the developer/publisher already get the money for that used game? It had to of been bought once to be used right?

Well, any person who buy's a used copy would have to buy a brand new copy instead if used game trading didn't exist.

Thats like saying "I'd have 100 dollars if I had 100 dollars in my pocket."

[Hobie-wan]

Oh, and apparently EB games Australia is taking an Inazuma styled approach.

Specifically, the way Mercenaries' save-games can't be deleted, meaning that EB Games can neither resell second-hand copies nor allow their customary 7-day returns

Ooh, I hadn't thought about that angle. I foresee uproars at normal retail stores that just happen to sell games. Either they'll be clueless and accept returns under normal game provisions, prompting someone to be pissed off when they get an obviously used copy or they'll be on the ball and fail to accept any returns at all on this game, prompting someone of be pissed off and swearing they didn't play it at all.

*grabs popcorn*