Do the Japanese actually say Famicon.. with the N sound?

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Do the Japanese actually say Famicon.. with the N sound?

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Long story short, Japanese language has no character for the sound "M". They ususally just place their katakana character for N to represent what would have been an M sound in English.

The word "computer" is written as "Konputaa". Family Computer and Famicom are both written with the N katakana.

So do they say FamicoN.. as its written?

Or do they infer the M sound and say FamicoM?
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BocoDragon wrote:Long story short, Japanese language has no character for the sound "M". They ususally just place their katakana character for N to represent what would have been an M sound in English.

The word "computer" is written as "Konputaa". Family Computer and Famicom are both written with the N katakana.

So do they say FamicoN.. as its written?

Or do they infer the M sound and say FamicoM?
Japanese do have an /m/ sound, but not at the end of words. So yes, famicon, or ファミコン. Also, "konputa" ought to be pronounced "komputa". The kana ン (n, and ん in hiragana) becomes an /m/ before m, p, and b. That's why we say tempura not tenpura.
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o.pwuaioc wrote:Japanese do have an /m/ sound, but not at the end of words.
I knew, but it was hard to explain :P
o.pwuaioc wrote:So yes, famicon, or ファミコン. Also, "konputa" ought to be pronounced "komputa". The kana ン (n, and ん in hiragana) becomes an /m/ before m, p, and b. That's why we say tempura not tenpura.
Oh cool thanks. So even though you might say KoMputaa, you would say FamicoN.
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o.pwuaioc wrote:Japanese do have an /m/ sound, but not at the end of words. So yes, famicon, or ファミコン. Also, "konputa" ought to be pronounced "komputa". The kana ン (n, and ん in hiragana) becomes an /m/ before m, p, and b. That's why we say tempura not tenpura.
Well, there is no pure /m/ syllable. It's all "maa-mei-mii-mou-muu"
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o.pwuaioc wrote:Japanese do have an /m/ sound, but not at the end of words. So yes, famicon, or ファミコン. Also, "konputa" ought to be pronounced "komputa". The kana ン (n, and ん in hiragana) becomes an /m/ before m, p, and b. That's why we say tempura not tenpura.
Well, there is no pure /m/ syllable. It's all "maa-mei-mii-mou-muu"
Yeah, that's why I didn't say syllable. I said sound. It's a syllabary. However, the kana ん before m, b, and p becomes /m/.
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They say Famicon, with an N sound. The con part actually sounds like the English word "cone".

Most English speakers pronounce it like the "com" in the word computer. They aren't exactly wrong, since Family Computer is the full official name anyway. Both ways are correct for different reasons.

Another example of this is Pokemon, which is short for Pocket Monster. The Japanese pronounce the "mon" part like the English word moan. However the English speakers pronounce it like the first part of the word monster. Since it is short for monster anyway, it isn't exactly wrong. But if English speakers want to be more consistent, they should also pronounce "poke" like the first part of the word pocket.
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