A New Sega System will be released soon for Home

[flamepanther]

If Sega is going to release a new home console, I'm pretty sure they'll let us know. The hype could only help them in that case.

[Flake]

I think it is safe to say that Sega will never enter the home console market again. But that is not to say that there are not a plethora of ways Sega might regain strong brand awareness!

For instance, SEGA brand generic medications. SEGA of America could turn its attention to importing cheap pharmaceuticals from Canada and repackaging them with their lovable cast of characters. Sonic the Hedgehog caffeine pills, maybe? Ristar sleeping aids? Space Channel 5 arthritis medicine. The possibilities are endless.

Or how about SEGA begins making elementary school primers? Robotnik teaches Reading? Or Geography with Shenmue? See Sonic. See Sonic Run. Run Sonic Run.

Last, but certainly not least, I think there are several areas of the fast food industry SEGA could enter. For instance, I think the 'Gourmet Grilled Cheese' market is seriously under-exploited. Chu Chu Cheese House could be a serious franchise waiting to happen.

[Opa Opa]

Last, but certainly not least, I think there are several areas of the fast food industry SEGA could enter. For instance, I think the 'Gourmet Grilled Cheese' market is seriously under-exploited. Chu Chu Cheese House could be a serious franchise waiting to happen.

[msimplay]

I just want to add Sega is really shitty compared to what it used to be.
Sure we got a couple of excellent games like Vanquish (Have not played yet) and Bayonetta but what else is there that is excellent ?

They made Sonic 4 into parts and released Sonic colours as their full product whats wrong with Sega for God sake .
Sonic 4 should have been their big box product it's what everyone has been waiting for.

Then there's the fact they are not doing anything with all their Arcade releases potential except rereleasing Megadrive games for God sake they have a whole Arcade line they could dip into for release on the services such as PSN and XBLA but noooo its all this Megadrive stuff that has been rereleased so much that am sick of it

Now that I've had my little rant I really hope they release a new console

[Opa Opa]

I just want to add Sega is really shitty compared to what it used to be.
Sure we got a couple of excellent games like Vanquish (Have not played yet) and Bayonetta but what else is there that is excellent ?

They made Sonic 4 into parts and released Sonic colours as their full product whats wrong with Sega for God sake .
Sonic 4 should have been their big box product it's what everyone has been waiting for.

Then there's the fact they are not doing anything with all their Arcade releases potential except rereleasing Megadrive games for God sake they have a whole Arcade line they could dip into for release on the services such as PSN and XBLA but noooo its all this Megadrive stuff that has been rereleased so much that am sick of it

Now that I've had my little rant I really hope they release a new console

& .

1) If you haven't played Vanquish how can you know if it is any good?

2) This is my personal belief but Sega has been really good to the fans this generation. We've gotten awesome arcade ports like Gunblade N.Y.C., over the top new titles like House of the Dead: Overkill, and a long overdue sequel to NiGHTS. They've done well as a game developer and publisher. To be dead serious, I currently have more faith in them to make games that are more appealing to me than anything Nintendo has made recently.

3) And if you don't like what they are making now how on earth will buying their latest system make it any better?
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I know you're ranting but... dang... I've got to take it a little personal. Sega's my "homeboy". Is that what the cool kids are saying these days?

[msimplay]

I just want to add Sega is really shitty compared to what it used to be.
Sure we got a couple of excellent games like Vanquish (Have not played yet) and Bayonetta but what else is there that is excellent ?

They made Sonic 4 into parts and released Sonic colours as their full product whats wrong with Sega for God sake .
Sonic 4 should have been their big box product it's what everyone has been waiting for.

Then there's the fact they are not doing anything with all their Arcade releases potential except rereleasing Megadrive games for God sake they have a whole Arcade line they could dip into for release on the services such as PSN and XBLA but noooo its all this Megadrive stuff that has been rereleased so much that am sick of it

Now that I've had my little rant I really hope they release a new console

& .

1) If you haven't played Vanquish how can you know if it is any good?

2) This is my personal belief but Sega has been really good to the fans this generation. We've gotten awesome arcade ports like Gunblade N.Y.C., over the top new titles like House of the Dead: Overkill, and a long overdue sequel to NiGHTS. They've done well as a game developer and publisher. To be dead serious, I currently have more faith in them to make games that are more appealing to me than anything Nintendo has made recently.

3) And if you don't like what they are making now how on earth will buying their latest system make it any better?
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I know you're ranting but... dang... I've got to take it a little personal. Sega's my "homeboy". Is that what the cool kids are saying these days?

Seen a few clips of the game and other people have told me its good and tell me its a tripple A title but if it came to my own experience I can only say 1 game but since I like Sega well I gave them 2 points instead of 1 .

Also you haven't addressed any of my points what about their back catalog which they continuously ignore in favour of rereleasing Megadrive games.
I mean look at the Megadrive collection who on earth remembers the Virtua Fighter two on the Megadrive as a gem or classic ?

They released House of the dead overkill as opposed to House of the dead 4 I don't see that as a plus point to be honest.
Also some of their new updates such as Beast Rider was just plain rubbish.

Gunblade +1

Nights 2 +1

Virtua Fighter +1

But wheres the rest of their big name franchises ?
Wheres Shenmue, Shinobi, Panzer Dragoon, Daytona USA and so on anything that made them Sega they just aren't doing.

Instead we are getting endless crap Sonics and even their latest Dreamcast collection that was also a let down rereleases of games we already can download on Live.

People may argue that Sega went down even while those big named games were being released but it wasn't because of the games because they were great I would know I stayed with Sega even when everyone ditched and went to PS1.
It was due to their poor business decisions and failure to read changing market at the time.

Well when they had their own system their games were on one console that made all the difference to me.
Their strategy would change drastically to make their own games console instead of the way we are getting games at the moment I'm sure they would be releasing more of their games if they had their own console.
Whatever they are doing now is because they have the liberty of being a 3rd party.

EDIT: Na Nintendo has made the more appealing games this generation.
Anything that had me won over in the previous generations such as Dreamcast and before they just not there at that level at the moment.

Sega Used to be toe to toe with anything that Nintendo did in previous generations but can you honestly say that Sonic this gen beats out Mario Galaxy 2 ?
If so give me examples of Sega's software quality beating out Nintendo's in any area at all ?
They had a much more rounded catalog in previous generations

EDIT I also include Sony as Sega was also toe to toe with Sony in their software quality previous generations just see the Dreamcast still a fan favourite to this day

[CFFJR]

First of all, I want to say that I like Beast Rider. It had its problems, but I thought it was a fun game anyway.

They made Sonic 4 into parts and released Sonic colours as their full product whats wrong with Sega for God sake .
Sonic 4 should have been their big box product it's what everyone has been waiting for.

I'm with you here, but at the same time I'm not. For one reason: Sonic 4 (ep.1) was kinda disappointing, true, but Sonic Colors was absolutely fantastic. Colors is one of the best Sonic games in years. It was a brilliant, fun romp that had me smiling in a way that most games can't achieve any more. And yes, I think it rivals Mario Galaxy.

In short, I wasn't all that sad about Sonic 4 because Colors was so damn great.

I'm just saying.

[msimplay]

First of all, I want to say that I like Beast Rider. It had its problems, but I thought it was a fun game anyway.

They made Sonic 4 into parts and released Sonic colours as their full product whats wrong with Sega for God sake .
Sonic 4 should have been their big box product it's what everyone has been waiting for.

I'm with you here, but at the same time I'm not. For one reason: Sonic 4 (ep.1) was kinda disappointing, true, but Sonic Colors was absolutely fantastic. Colors is one of the best Sonic games in years. It was a brilliant, fun romp that had me smiling in a way that most games can't achieve any more. And yes, I think it rivals Mario Galaxy.

In short, I wasn't all that sad about Sonic 4 because Colors was so damn great.

I'm just saying.

Fair enough I haven't played Colors yet but if it's that great why call it colors and not 4 ?
I'm still disappointed with 4 because what was there was good not as fast as Sonic 2 but still good however its an episodic game and that's just one type of game I dislike.
Expansion packs are fine but to split a full game from the get go I really dislike when they do that especially for big name releases.

[scarper]

I think they could do it. They would need to go back to the idea of the Dreamcast: An internets system with a corresponding handheld (not exactly a memory card with a Game Boy on it, but still. Some side-by-side handheld, similar to the relationship between the PSP and the PS3.)

Think about it: Companies are directly porting 360 games to the 3DS... which is a handheld. Just think of the home console capabilities that companies are discovering now. This would give Sega some pretty juicy roots to start building off of. But if they did take this move, they better not fuck it all up like last time. They need to make it stand out from the current crowd of hardware, and protect its title when Sony and Nintendo make a next gen system.

This is the kind of thing they didn't do last time: They didn't take advantage of DVD's, which consequentially led to the PS2 royally kicking its ass.

They could easily do things that current consoles are doing, like gimmicky motion controls, and a virtual console type service but with Sega games. So unless they have some kickass hardware specs, Sega's gotta think of something insane.

Or they could beat Sony to this:
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/new ... rabyte-dvd

[Opa Opa]

Also you haven't addressed any of my points what about their back catalog which they continuously ignore in favour of rereleasing Megadrive games.
I mean look at the Megadrive collection who on earth remembers the Virtua Fighter two on the Megadrive as a gem or classic ?

What do you mean by "back catalog"? However, I think I might have answered this if you read a little further down.

They've released older titles in compilations for consoles/handhelds for people who don't have original hardware (or other reasons) and put some games that are very expensive like Greylancer on virtual download services. I don't have a problem with that. It's just a way for them to capitalize on prior investments. Nintendo is doing the same thing (see Mario All-Stars Wii). Also, the game lineup in some of those compilations are not too shabby either.

And VF2 is better on the Saturn anyways... (edited: it was supposed to say "vf2" not "fv2")

They released House of the dead overkill as opposed to House of the dead 4 I don't see that as a plus point to be honest.
Also some of their new updates such as Beast Rider was just plain rubbish.

I liked Overkill but that's a personal opinion. If you want to play 4; go play it (that is, of course, if you can find it). We are waaay overdue for a home port.

And while I haven't played Beast Rider, every review I've read hasn't been pretty.

But wheres the rest of their big name franchises ?
Wheres Shenmue, Shinobi, Panzer Dragoon, Daytona USA and so on anything that made them Sega they just aren't doing.

Is there a market for those games? I know fans would buy the games but doing a service for fans doesn't keep a business afloat.

It was due to their poor business decisions and failure to read changing market at the time.

They did make some terrible mistakes. I think that by laying low and taking small moves, they are doing the right thing for now.

Their strategy would change drastically to make their own games console instead of the way we are getting games at the moment I'm sure they would be releasing more of their games if they had their own console.
Whatever they are doing now is because they have the liberty of being a 3rd party.

I agree with you there but what would their system have to offer that the competition wouldn't? A new system not only has to have updated graphical/power capabilities but it also has to have something to bring consumers in. The PS2 had DVD, the Wii had motion controls, et cetera. There's so much going on right now that I don't think that they could compete until Sony or Microsoft (or both) got out of the game market. And that most likely won't happen for at least two gaming generations or unless Microsoft/Sony really screw themselves over somehow... Notice I didn't say Nintendo. I think it's safe to assume that they are a fairly strong company and mostly make good business choices (there are exceptions of course).

Sega Used to be toe to toe with anything that Nintendo did in previous generations but can you honestly say that Sonic this gen beats out Mario Galaxy 2 ?
If so give me examples of Sega's software quality beating out Nintendo's in any area at all ?

I can't say anything about a Galaxy 2 comparison but I can say that I prefer the Sonic All-Star Racing to Mario Kart. Not just because I like Sega and its' characters but because I believe that the game is more orderly that MK. Sonic Racing is more about racing skill than using items to determine who wins a race. Mario Kart is just so random about who is going to win it doesn't seem fair half the time. Why should I get knocked out of first place when the guy in last shot a blue shell at me? If you can't race as well as the people ahead doesn't mean you deserve the right to determine rankings.