Here We Go Again. More Screwy PS3 Firmware Updates

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Bootaaay wrote:Jesus, talk about overreacting.

You do realise that with every firmware update, there's a possibility that it'll brick the machine - I've read complaints from peoples whose 360's, Wii's, PSP's, iPhones, etc have bricked on firmware update, but the way you guys are going on you'd think this is a PS3-exclusive problem.
The PS3 is the most commonly affected in a negative manner. And these are always mandatory updates in order to shop on PSN. So it is obviously a big problem.

Shit seems to happen with virtually EVERY SINGLE firmware update for the PS3. Most often the older backwards-compatible models. Thus the "Here we go again" in the topic header.

*On a side note* What the fuck is up with people on this board lately? Getting so damn grouchy. Is it because of the holiday season or what? Jeez. Drink some egg nog and relax
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Weekend_Warrior wrote:*On a side note* What the fuck is up with people on this board lately? Getting so damn grouchy. Is it because of the holiday season or what? Jeez. Drink some egg nog and relax
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I'm not being grouchy, you're just overreacting. There's all of a dozen people who have had problems with this firmware update on the official forums, while thousands upon thousands have updated with no problems whatsoever, myself included.
Shit seems to happen with virtually EVERY SINGLE firmware update for the PS3. Most often the older backwards-compatible models. Thus the "Here we go again" in the topic header.
Shit seems to happen with EVERY SINGLE firmware update of every device EVER. If there's one thing you can fault Sony for, it's for not having a system in place to allow users to roll-back to before the update was applied. But there will always be people whose machines fuck-up during an update or die shortly after (usually from an already present wear and tear problem that will then get blamed on the update), no matter the console or device. Just wait for the next iPod firmware update, go on some Apple forums and see the numerous posts from people saying "the firmware update killed my iPod!".
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Weekend_Warrior wrote:*On a side note* What the fuck is up with people on this board lately? Getting so damn grouchy. Is it because of the holiday season or what? Jeez. Drink some egg nog and relax
I think it's a combination of finals for us that are in school, and holiday crap for everyone else. I know I've been cranky lately from the all nighters.
But, yeah, lots of stuff gets killed by firmware updates, I have no clue if PS3 are worse than anything else. I was really annoyed by this one though, it kept on nagging me and wouldn't let me use netflix at all, then took 30 min. to install :x .
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the7k wrote: It's a technical issue. Not a feature take-away. Other systems have their share of those too, like the original Xbox 360's notorious failure rate & disc-scratching (technical issue) and Microsoft's decision to kill all support for third-party memory devices (feature take-away). Technical issues are an inevitability, feature rollbacks are not.
Microsoft removed third party memory device support. Then added the ability to use any USB memory stick with the system, therefore making third party memory devices obsolete anyway. I've yet to see Sony add features that improve on the features taken away. I have to wait for the homebrew community to do shit Sony should have done years ago...

PS3 also has a poor track record with failure rates, did sony give every customer a 3 year warranty on top of their existing warranty to make up for it? No, they put their fingers in their ears and went "la la la, our machine is perfect and there isn't a problem with it". Yes the 360 had catastrophic failure rates, but at least Microsoft put their hands up and said "there is a problem, here's what we're going to do to solve it" Sony's attitude to criticism/failure/problems is always to go "stop talking bullshit, our console is perfect in every way, it's the customers fault." That is absolutely the wrong way to do business and is the key reason that I boycott the company now.
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Weekend_Warrior wrote:
Bootaaay wrote:*On a side note* What the fuck is up with people on this board lately? Getting so damn grouchy. Is it because of the holiday season or what? Jeez. Drink some egg nog and relax
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I have had my PS3 slim since it was released and so far non of the firmware updates have effected my system, however there were stretches where I did not play or turn on my PS3 for a week or two on end, so maybe the firmware bugs were fixed by the time I installed them.

I still intend on buying a 360, which is what I was going to buy first, but then the PS3 slim came out and at a lower price point then 360 (until 2 weeks later when MS lowered it's price)

I have not heard of nearly as many PS3 failures as 360 failures (at least up until the Jasper chip set)

It's a shame in general that this is what game consoles have come to, meanwhile you can dig out a Genesis, 2600 or SNES and sure enough it will work...

although us gamers who grew up in the NES era, we had our exposure to system failures early with that damn blinking red light of frustration....every kid had his own cart blowing technique that they swore by, and you felt that if you pressed the power button just right it would stay on...lol
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Niode wrote:
the7k wrote: It's a technical issue. Not a feature take-away. Other systems have their share of those too, like the original Xbox 360's notorious failure rate & disc-scratching (technical issue) and Microsoft's decision to kill all support for third-party memory devices (feature take-away). Technical issues are an inevitability, feature rollbacks are not.
Microsoft removed third party memory device support. Then added the ability to use any USB memory stick with the system, therefore making third party memory devices obsolete anyway. I've yet to see Sony add features that improve on the features taken away. I have to wait for the homebrew community to do shit Sony should have done years ago...

PS3 also has a poor track record with failure rates, did sony give every customer a 3 year warranty on top of their existing warranty to make up for it? No, they put their fingers in their ears and went "la la la, our machine is perfect and there isn't a problem with it". Yes the 360 had catastrophic failure rates, but at least Microsoft put their hands up and said "there is a problem, here's what we're going to do to solve it" Sony's attitude to criticism/failure/problems is always to go "stop talking bullshit, our console is perfect in every way, it's the customers fault." That is absolutely the wrong way to do business and is the key reason that I boycott the company now.
Im pretty sure Microsoft did that 3 year warranty thing because their consoles were over 50 percent failure rates. Electronics are gonna fail but 50 percent is way too much. Not enough PS3's died to really signal a huge recall and to fix them all.
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I've updated recently and I played DMC4 for a good hour and a half with nothing going wrong. Nothing wrong has happened to my PS3 slim ever since I got it.

In fact, the people on that playstation board all sound like they have the older fat models. I'm pretty sure that's got something to do with it.
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Veno wrote:I've updated recently and I played DMC4 for a good hour and a half with nothing going wrong. Nothing wrong has happened to my PS3 slim ever since I got it.

In fact, the people on that playstation board all sound like they have the older fat models. I'm pretty sure that's got something to do with it.
Yeah I have the older fat model. I do sort of worry every time I update it. I had the YLOD 1 year and 1 day after I purchased it, contacted Sony and they fixed it even though it was out of warranty (thank the Lord). I feel like my super awesome 500gb model with BC is going to brick up some day, sucks.

I do think we still have it way better nowadays than ever. We have a stable market for games that keeps growing. We have more features and ways to play, more experimental indie titles, ways to plays online. I think its a good time to be a gamer. I remember wanting a 32X soooo bad when I was 13. I thought it might be able to do what the Saturn was going to do, and not cost $300. I had it for a few months before it was obvious the games sucked and they were discontinuing it (sorry if we have 32X lovers in the room).

So I do think we have it way better than other generations in the history of video games, I just can also understand that we want our $300 to $600 system to not break and have a better warranty.
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