Sony removing OtherOS feature in 3.21 PS3 update

[Mod_Man_Extreme]

I realize this might get on your nerves, Mod Man, but perhaps you should settle down somewhat.

I should, but I don't stand for misinformation like that. It's honestly really annoying when people just see one thing and latch onto it instead of looking at the whole picture and using their common sense.

Your perception on what is misinformation, everyone has a point of view. Do your forceful statements mean only you are right? I thought this is a discussion forum. No reason for all the anger.

True, but just double check sometimes ya know?

I used to get really ticked off at a lot of gaming companies for stuff that I thought was their fault, but typically they're trying to defend you from publishers getting to greedy.

[CRTGAMER]

I should, but I don't stand for misinformation like that. It's honestly really annoying when people just see one thing and latch onto it instead of looking at the whole picture and using their common sense.

Your perception on what is misinformation, everyone has a point of view. Do your forceful statements mean only you are right? I thought this is a discussion forum. No reason for all the anger.

True, but just double check sometimes ya know?

I used to get really ticked off at a lot of gaming companies for stuff that I thought was their fault, but typically they're trying to defend you from publishers getting to greedy.

Double Check?
I read that as still denouncing my point of view as if I don't know what I write. We both see the whole DRM-DLC thing in a different perspective and counter point discussion is great to provide awareness to this important topic. Respectful mutual courtesy in discussions will keep the focus of the topic.

[Inazuma]

I still think it's a bad thing.

not going to disagree with you there, but you do know almost all consoles ever made have region lock. The Wii has it, Don't know about the 360 (too lazy to google it)

Correct, but there is a difference between having region locking for the entire lifespan of a console, and implementing it during the lifecycle of a console, after people have already bought it. Bait and switch.

I bought a Japanese launch PS3 knowing that it would play all regions of games. If I wanted to buy an American game in the future, it may not work on my Japanese console. That's bullshit.

Sony already took away my PSN access. They removed Linux support for updated systems, and removed PS2 BC on newer consoles. Sony just keeps removing stuff left and right. It's really getting out of hand.

I hate to see mindless consumers bend over and easily accept all of Sony's bullshit without a second thought. It's because of the pushover consumers that Sony gets away with their bullshit and people like me are unable to play PS3 games.

[Niode]

I still think it's a bad thing.

not going to disagree with you there, but you do know almost all consoles ever made have region lock. The Wii has it, Don't know about the 360 (too lazy to google it)

Correct, but there is a difference between having region locking for the entire lifespan of a console, and implementing it during the lifecycle of a console, after people have already bought it. Bait and switch.

I bought a Japanese launch PS3 knowing that it would play all regions of games. If I wanted to buy an American game in the future, it may not work on my Japanese console. That's bullshit.

Sony already took away my PSN access. They removed Linux support for updated systems, and removed PS2 BC on newer consoles. Sony just keeps removing stuff left and right. It's really getting out of hand.

I hate to see mindless consumers bend over and easily accept all of Sony's bullshit without a second thought. It's because of the pushover consumers that Sony gets away with their bullshit and people like me are unable to play PS3 games.

This is exactly the problem that I have with Sony. It's the constant removal of features. The PS3 is a joke. At this rate it's going to be the laughing stock of the entire industry. I'm glad that jailbreak happened, it means I can bypass Sony's bullshit and use the system I paid for on my terms. I don't give a shit what a EULA says or whatever, I've said that plenty of times before, EULAs don't stand up in court. They aren't the be all and end all of how you should get to use your hardware. EULAs aren't above the law. If we don't voice our disgust at how Sony treats it's customers then they are simply going to keep abusing their power.

Regarding the 'you knew what you were getting into when you signed the EULA' yes, I knew that they reserve the right to change the service at any point. I didn't think that they would go as far as removing features from the system, features already factored into the purchase of the system. Inazuma brings a valid point, what happens to all those people who imported PS3s knowing that it was a region free system. That's a major selling point. Now what happens when they can't buy games for their system anymore? They're forced to seek alternate means of running games from another region. AKA Piracy. It's either that or give even more money blindly to Sony. If you are willing to do that then you really are a blind fanboy. I know there's not a cat in hell's chance of me buying another Sony product ever again after this shit.

If you are willing to be complacent about consumer rights, then you deserve to be shafted by every company going, because they're out to make money. In any way that they can. If that means fucking over every customer that walks them by then that's what they're going to do. Because the vast majority of people are just going to bend over, spread their cheeks and scream "more, please more". Well at least that's what Sony seems to be doing right now.

[GSZX1337]

This is exactly the problem that I have with Sony. It's the constant removal of features. The PS3 is a joke. At this rate it's going to be a brick that cost half a grand.

Changed to show my thoughts.

If you are willing to be complacent about consumer rights, then you deserve to be shafted by every company going, because they're out to make money. In any way that they can. If that means fucking over every customer that walks them by then that's what they're going to do. Because the vast majority of people are just going to bend over, spread their cheeks and scream "more, please more". Well at least that's what Sony seems to be doing right now.

I think most people don't realize that the consumer has a job to complain. If a company is stepping over a boundary, we (the consumers) need to complain, or if that fails, not buy the company's product so that they'll fall back in line.

[EvilRyu2099]

This is exactly the problem that I have with Sony. It's the constant removal of features. The PS3 is a joke. At this rate it's going to be the laughing stock of the entire industry. I'm glad that jailbreak happened, it means I can bypass Sony's bullshit and use the system I paid for on my terms. I don't give a shit what a EULA says or whatever, I've said that plenty of times before, EULAs don't stand up in court. They aren't the be all and end all of how you should get to use your hardware. EULAs aren't above the law. If we don't voice our disgust at how Sony treats it's customers then they are simply going to keep abusing their power.

Regarding the 'you knew what you were getting into when you signed the EULA' yes, I knew that they reserve the right to change the service at any point. I didn't think that they would go as far as removing features from the system, features already factored into the purchase of the system. Inazuma brings a valid point, what happens to all those people who imported PS3s knowing that it was a region free system. That's a major selling point. Now what happens when they can't buy games for their system anymore? They're forced to seek alternate means of running games from another region. AKA Piracy. It's either that or give even more money blindly to Sony. If you are willing to do that then you really are a blind fanboy. I know there's not a cat in hell's chance of me buying another Sony product ever again after this shit.

If you are willing to be complacent about consumer rights, then you deserve to be shafted by every company going, because they're out to make money. In any way that they can. If that means fucking over every customer that walks them by then that's what they're going to do. Because the vast majority of people are just going to bend over, spread their cheeks and scream "more, please more". Well at least that's what Sony seems to be doing right now.

Way to rage over nothing when Xbox charges for its multiplayer service... So what that Sony has allowed a crap ton a features... They make up for it by providing better exclusives that previously, and their PSN DLC options are much better than before as well.. I know taking away features sucks, but some of you are overzealous with the fact that Sony is trying to protect itself like the other two companies it's competing with... Not like Xbox and Nintendo allowed the features Sony did early in this generation... Some of you are just plain bitchy and spoiled.. How about you STFU and just keep it to yourself..

[GSZX1337]

Way to rage over nothing when Microsoft charges for its multiplayer service...

I guarantee you that Sony will charge for its multiplayer service next console generation. Also, IIRC, Niode thinks XBL is worth the money (before the price increase). Please correct me if I'm wrong, Niode.

They make up for it by providing better exclusives

This is based on opinion only. One console's exclusives can't be [objectively] considered better than another's.

Not like Microsoft and Nintendo allowed

Some of you are just plain bitchy and spoiled.. How about you STFU and just keep it to yourself..

You're just self-righteous and dickish. How about you shut the fuck up ad keep your shit to yourself?

Cuts both ways.

[YoshiEgg25]

I'm just going to say that I'm glad I didn't pay $400 for something quickly turning into a brick. But really, there's more flaming going on here than in the religion threads. Everyone needs to take a bit of a chill pill; there's no need for people to be fighting about this.

[GSZX1337]

I'm just going to say that I'm glad I didn't pay $400 for something quickly turning into a brick.

I paid half a grand for mine. I'm just hoping that I can sell my PS3 for a decent price to recoup my costs.

But really, there's more flaming going on here than in the religion threads. Everyone needs to take a bit of a chill pill; there's no need for people to be fighting about this.

I'm not sure it'd clear, but I'm not trying to actually flame EvilRyu2099, I was attempting to display that I (or Niode, or anyone else who disagrees with him) can easily tell him to "Shut The Fuck Up and just keep it to yourself."

[Dylan]

I'm just going to say that I'm glad I didn't pay $400 for something quickly turning into a brick. But really, there's more flaming going on here than in the religion threads. Everyone needs to take a bit of a chill pill; there's no need for people to be fighting about this.

No pious, God-fearing man could let such irreverent pagans commit these sinful acts of iniquity. The righteous must strike them down before their corruption spreads the very flames of hell across the surface of our land, whilst it burns down our families and also poor orphaned children.