Who saw it? Holy crap what an ending.
Semi-Spoiler
Is he really dead?
Sons of Anarchy Season 3 Starts . . . last night
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I just finished the first episode (of the third season) tonight. The show does not disappoint.
I'd be surprised (story wise) if he was dead. I wouldn't be surprised after what happened though.
Since there is absolutely no way Jax's kid is going to die, it kind of takes away any kind of suspense as far as that is concerned. I'm not sure who that was at the end, but what Jax did might have ruined any kind of leads. So probably not the best time for him to 'make the hard choice'.
I'm definitely looking forward to the rest of the season.
I'd be surprised (story wise) if he was dead. I wouldn't be surprised after what happened though.
Since there is absolutely no way Jax's kid is going to die, it kind of takes away any kind of suspense as far as that is concerned. I'm not sure who that was at the end, but what Jax did might have ruined any kind of leads. So probably not the best time for him to 'make the hard choice'.
I'm definitely looking forward to the rest of the season.
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For the first half of the episode they were doing a good job of setting up some doubt that his kid was still alive. I think they could have waited a couple episodes to show if he was alive or not.
The other option would have been to show that the baby is alive, and have Jax waiver on whether he is or not.
But the show has been great thus far, and from the ending, I'm sure they don't need to hide that info just to create some faux suspense.
My only complaint in this show so far are two things:
During the Season 2 finale, agent stahl 'shot' the irish guy's son with the blank. But only after she actually shoots him a couple minutes later do her guys get on the walkie and say "we heard gunshots!"
The surveillance footage of Opie running out of the exploding meth labs contains an angle which happens to be the actual shot from the episode where they blow it up. Ok that's a minor detail, but it was kinda annoying.
The other option would have been to show that the baby is alive, and have Jax waiver on whether he is or not.
But the show has been great thus far, and from the ending, I'm sure they don't need to hide that info just to create some faux suspense.
My only complaint in this show so far are two things:
During the Season 2 finale, agent stahl 'shot' the irish guy's son with the blank. But only after she actually shoots him a couple minutes later do her guys get on the walkie and say "we heard gunshots!"
The surveillance footage of Opie running out of the exploding meth labs contains an angle which happens to be the actual shot from the episode where they blow it up. Ok that's a minor detail, but it was kinda annoying.
Re: Sons of Anarchy Season 3 Starts . . . last night
What I meant about his baby is that I don't believe a show like this would include a man murdering a baby. But I could be wrong...
Yeah, there are minor complaints with almost every show. It takes a lot of attention to detail to make sure you aren't messing anything up. And the amount of screening/editing needed wouldn't be worth it.
It's not my favorite show, but I do really enjoy it. Instead of building up multiple episodes waiting for some action to happen, each episode has plenty of action. I often look at the clock and think "Wow, they still have another half hour!".
Yeah, there are minor complaints with almost every show. It takes a lot of attention to detail to make sure you aren't messing anything up. And the amount of screening/editing needed wouldn't be worth it.
It's not my favorite show, but I do really enjoy it. Instead of building up multiple episodes waiting for some action to happen, each episode has plenty of action. I often look at the clock and think "Wow, they still have another half hour!".
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I think him killing Abel would have been feasible. This is one of the darker shows on tv, which is why I like it. They're not afraid to hurt/kill major characters. I don't think it would have been in character for him to kill the baby though. He was close to doing it, but was in a really distraught moment.
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Tonights episode was. . . a step towards the next episode. They seemed to suggest that what was happening was one day after last week's episode. But everyone seemed to move past hale's death quickly. His brother was already picking up his things? Opie's girlfriend was holding her dying (dead?) son in her arms and they didn't really go anywhere with that tonight. I thought opie would be with her or something at some point.
I'm also unclear on the irish situation and who the priest is aligned with. Jimmy was hiding the fact that he knew the baby was out of the country. Then they killed the guy who kidnapped him. I dunno maybe I need to rewatch it, or maybe they'll go deeper into it in next week's episode.
Looks like Stephen King will be in next week's episode.
I'm also unclear on the irish situation and who the priest is aligned with. Jimmy was hiding the fact that he knew the baby was out of the country. Then they killed the guy who kidnapped him. I dunno maybe I need to rewatch it, or maybe they'll go deeper into it in next week's episode.
Looks like Stephen King will be in next week's episode.
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Well, none of the Sons would be too upset with Hale's death. So I guess there aren't a ton of people that would be grieving over his death.
I'm not sure on how long it takes before they clean out the office of a fallen officer, but one day does seem kind of quick. Of course you have to take into consideration that his brother is a politician, and being at the station was also a time to do some politics.
That wasn't Opie's girlfriend (as far as I can tell) at the end of the first episode. Just some random lady with a kid. So they didn't really need to delve into that anymore.
As for the Irish situation, it is hard to understand what they are saying, so I can definitely see some confusion. Basically, from what I understand, the Irish are all IRA (or sister factions of the IRA). So Jimmy runs his area, and is one of the ranking members, although he doesn't get to make final decisions such as killing people like the guy who took Jax's son (I think he ranks too high). However, they found out that his son had cooperated with the Feds, which means that they should take care of their own (they shouldn't need to take it up with a council, as the priest was suggesting). They didn't kill him for kidnapping alone, but the fact that his son cooperated with the feds, and that he had strained the relationship between the IRA and the Sons (the Sons run guns for the IRA). This is a bad thing.
Jimmy didn't want to reveal too many details about the whereabouts of the kidnapper (sorry, I can't remember his name), probably because he wanted the IRA to take care of their own. If he can bring the baby to the Sons and look like the hero, then he might be able to get the Irish back working with the Sons, and then gains popularity with the IRA (that's just pure speculation on my part, but a possible reason for him leaving out details). It's all about politics, and holding back information until it helps you the most.
My interpretations could very well be incorrect, but I think some plausible inferences have to be made at some points. Otherwise episodes would get bogged down with details.
All in all I thought it was a good episode. Not as good as the first, but still enjoyable.
I'm not sure on how long it takes before they clean out the office of a fallen officer, but one day does seem kind of quick. Of course you have to take into consideration that his brother is a politician, and being at the station was also a time to do some politics.
That wasn't Opie's girlfriend (as far as I can tell) at the end of the first episode. Just some random lady with a kid. So they didn't really need to delve into that anymore.
As for the Irish situation, it is hard to understand what they are saying, so I can definitely see some confusion. Basically, from what I understand, the Irish are all IRA (or sister factions of the IRA). So Jimmy runs his area, and is one of the ranking members, although he doesn't get to make final decisions such as killing people like the guy who took Jax's son (I think he ranks too high). However, they found out that his son had cooperated with the Feds, which means that they should take care of their own (they shouldn't need to take it up with a council, as the priest was suggesting). They didn't kill him for kidnapping alone, but the fact that his son cooperated with the feds, and that he had strained the relationship between the IRA and the Sons (the Sons run guns for the IRA). This is a bad thing.
Jimmy didn't want to reveal too many details about the whereabouts of the kidnapper (sorry, I can't remember his name), probably because he wanted the IRA to take care of their own. If he can bring the baby to the Sons and look like the hero, then he might be able to get the Irish back working with the Sons, and then gains popularity with the IRA (that's just pure speculation on my part, but a possible reason for him leaving out details). It's all about politics, and holding back information until it helps you the most.
My interpretations could very well be incorrect, but I think some plausible inferences have to be made at some points. Otherwise episodes would get bogged down with details.
All in all I thought it was a good episode. Not as good as the first, but still enjoyable.
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I'm pretty sure it was Opie's girlfriend. She had a blonde son. I could be wrong. . .
Hale's brother being a politician makes it make more sense, but still. We're talking like 12 hours after Hale was suddenly killed.
It just seemed to me like the priest was trying to work separately from Jimmy and was going to help the woman who had the baby run. Honestly, I'm not even sure who the girl was. I think I need to watch this episode again. . .
Hale's brother being a politician makes it make more sense, but still. We're talking like 12 hours after Hale was suddenly killed.
It just seemed to me like the priest was trying to work separately from Jimmy and was going to help the woman who had the baby run. Honestly, I'm not even sure who the girl was. I think I need to watch this episode again. . .
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Yeah, watch the end of the first episode again, I don't believe it's his girlfriend.
And yeah, I think they need to have subtitles whenever an Irish person speaks.
And yeah, I think they need to have subtitles whenever an Irish person speaks.
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So season 4 started 2 weeks ago. The new "villain(s)" are promising. Especially with the sheriff's axe wielding assault on the clubhouse. But I don't think we'll see him getting taken out anytime soon. He's too clean. And agent stahl stuck around for 3 seasons before getting hers. I'll be interested to see if he gets dirty before the season ends.