Sony removing OtherOS feature in 3.21 PS3 update

[MrPopo]

Of course it's Sony's fault, they didn't have to remove Linux.

Hackers didn't need to actively work and publish work on hacking the PS3 OS while it was still Sony's primary console. The whole point behind removing this is to deter piracy. The fact that some innocent customers get caught in the crossfire doesn't matter to them. The Sony board of directors aren't all in a room cackling that now all the Linux people are getting the shaft. As has been mentioned, they are a big company and the bottom line is what really matters.

It sucks when you try to stand up for something that helps people and they argue with you over it, doesn't it Niode?

Let me clarify my whole position here. I'm not attacking Niode for being pissed they're removing the Other OS. It's a feature he uses extensively and was a factor in his purchase. What annoys me is is call to arms for all users to be just as pissed as him, and his slippery slope arguments about "what feature might be next?" Or the notion that because a company wants to protect their profits this somehow makes them bad people. Remember, Sony is a publically traded company; they have an obligation to their shareholders to make a profit. You keep saying they should "do the right thing" and keep Other OS as an option. But one could just as easily make the argument that "the right thing" is for them to do whatever it takes to keep the platform unpiratable, to ensure software sales stay high. You can't please everyone.

="Inazuma"]Some people are selfish and don't give a fuck about other people, morals or doing the right thing. Sony could keep pulling features such as PS2 BC and BD movie support and if that doesn't affect them personally, they couldn't care less.

Oh, I'll be the first to admit that I'm a totally selfish motherfucker. I am against any government program that involves me having to pay more taxes without any benefit to myself.

Like I've been saying all along, it doesn't matter if 1 person uses it or 10million people use it. It's the principle that Sony can remove features that you have paid for. It's a bait and switch and should be illegal.

"On principle" is an argument that I very rarely even give the time of day; it strikes me as having too much time on your hands.

[Niode]

Of course it's Sony's fault, they didn't have to remove Linux.

Hackers didn't need to actively work and publish work on hacking the PS3 OS while it was still Sony's primary console. The whole point behind removing this is to deter piracy. The fact that some innocent customers get caught in the crossfire doesn't matter to them. The Sony board of directors aren't all in a room cackling that now all the Linux people are getting the shaft. As has been mentioned, they are a big company and the bottom line is what really matters.

They didn't have to remove the entire feature. They could have patched hypervisor.

[lisalover1]

Of course it's Sony's fault, they didn't have to remove Linux.

Hackers didn't need to actively work and publish work on hacking the PS3 OS while it was still Sony's primary console. The whole point behind removing this is to deter piracy. The fact that some innocent customers get caught in the crossfire doesn't matter to them. The Sony board of directors aren't all in a room cackling that now all the Linux people are getting the shaft. As has been mentioned, they are a big company and the bottom line is what really matters.

They didn't have to remove the entire feature. They could have patched hypervisor.

Precisely. It would make both sides happy if they just patched the security hole.

[DNT 2.5]

Ok guys, I am installing the update as we speak, I will keep you posted as to the results and if this was a giant april fools.

[DNT 2.5]

it is real guys.
The other OS menus are gone, and if you do not upgradedowngrade, you cannot use PSN at all, and you can't use copyright protected video on media servers after the DTCP-IP key is renewed.
Sucks for the ones who use linux, sucks that I won't be able to use linux, but I guess I will have to use my Oxbox.

[MrPopo]

Of course it's Sony's fault, they didn't have to remove Linux.

Hackers didn't need to actively work and publish work on hacking the PS3 OS while it was still Sony's primary console. The whole point behind removing this is to deter piracy. The fact that some innocent customers get caught in the crossfire doesn't matter to them. The Sony board of directors aren't all in a room cackling that now all the Linux people are getting the shaft. As has been mentioned, they are a big company and the bottom line is what really matters.

They didn't have to remove the entire feature. They could have patched hypervisor.

One last thing, then I'm going to drop this. Stop talking about patching code like it's a trivial matter.

[Niode]

Well it's out. It adds nothing to the PS3. Just removes features. It does absolutely bugger all for Slim users, what a joke

I'm currently working on a way of redirecting the firmware check with OS X by using a network sniffer (ettercap) and dns redirect. So that you can still get on PSN and still be able to use the PS3 the way it was intended to be used.

[Inazuma]

My PS3 was asking me to downgrade today and I didn't do it. Thankfully I was still able to stream videos from my PC.

[Ivo]

Niode, please let us know how the consumer rights thing and the partial refund goes.

I think you choose to keep OtherOS, which removes important functionality of playing recent games and online. What % of the original price this is worth fairly, I don't know. But considering the original fat price, it might be a good downpayment for a Slim, and that would let you have both functionalities (at the non-negligible "price" of having 2 bricks and needing to swap from one to the other etc., but oh well).

Ivo.

[env963]

I wont say this often. But i hope someone sue's Sony! Im pissed, i just woke up and i checked my PS3... "update required'... fuck'n pricks!

I hope Sony ends up with a lawsuit!