hating the games everyone loves

[metaleggman]

i think i've come to hate my own creation...

i can't get into sonic games, especially the original ones on genesis. with all the "go fast!" feeling, it makes me want to just blaze through the levels without "enjoying" it, for lack of a better word. platformers tend to go stale pretty quick for me, and sonic was always one of the worst with me

That's how I feel about the sonic games. They don't really applaud anything but speeding through the levels. Ya, there is a 9 minute time limit or w/e, but that's because you have to make sure you have rings. I've always felt that mario games wanted you to explore the games slowly and have more fun do everything the game has to offer.

[kinn]

I'd like to take Mario into a hotel room, and piss all over him, R Kelly style. In fact, the entire Nintendo roste: piss on them. Everything about the Nintendo universe inherently angers me. Character design that looks like it came out of a monkeys ass, replete with moronic letters on caps. They should be shot. I am sooo sick of everydamn Nintendo game and the same fucking sound bites jackin off their dusty word sperms into my ears. Do I need to see a little mini Bowser turd doing a victory dance? Fuck him.

Its a struggle for me to enjoy any Nintendo games, when I have to wade through all the Mario attitude and saccharine characters. The sheer lack of any originality from the Nintendo stables should foretell an ignominious doom for the company. They court the casual gamer, but which casual gamer can swallow this shit and not puke? Anemic Nintendo Fanboys.

Thats the most concentrated Nintendo hatred I've ever seen. Ouch man.

LOL same here. Never seen such pure hatred for Nintendo. But some people cannot stand all those cutesy games, no matter how well they play. Makes you wonder what Mario would be like if Nintendo made a different Mario game i.e. Mario does GTA.

[metaleggman]

LOL same here. Never seen such pure hatred for Nintendo. But some people cannot stand all those cutesy games, no matter how well they play. Makes you wonder what Mario would be like if Nintendo made a different Mario game i.e. Mario does GTA.

Reminds me of when Shigeru Miyamoto said he could've created Halo, he just didn't want to. Initially, that sounds like he's starting to lose his grip on reality, but makes sense after you put it into context. He was just talking about how he creates games people don't even know they want to play until they see it. In my experience, he's got a point.

Maybe now he needs to make a game that's violent, but in a way no one wants, until now!

[gradualmeltdown]

I hate Tekken 1-6 with a passion. Biggest heaps of shit ever.

[marurun]

Yeah, for fighting Tekken is pretty weak. I know lots of people love it, but the fighting system is not intuitive.

[Mozgus]

A friend of mine said Tekken matches feel like Rock'em Sock'em Robots. I agree.

[durkada]

LOL same here. Never seen such pure hatred for Nintendo. But some people cannot stand all those cutesy games, no matter how well they play. Makes you wonder what Mario would be like if Nintendo made a different Mario game i.e. Mario does GTA.

Reminds me of when Shigeru Miyamoto said he could've created Halo, he just didn't want to. Initially, that sounds like he's starting to lose his grip on reality, but makes sense after you put it into context. He was just talking about how he creates games people don't even know they want to play until they see it. In my experience, he's got a point.

Maybe now he needs to make a game that's violent, but in a way no one wants, until now!

For my own part, I don't want people to mistake my Nintendloathing for a abhorrence of all things cute. I love sincerely cute games with engaging play. The key to that sentence is sincerity. Mario and his stable are not engaging creations, at best they are cloy and annoying. These are the dregs of imagination and innovation, as evidenced by the stale sound-bytes of each characters, the idiotic "attitude" and Mariocentricity. Part of the prblem is the fan service -- Nintendo does not risk alienating their core audience by adding and dimension to their rehashed characters -- thus, the staleness of it all. Imagine if other companies did the same thing:

Sega releases Sonic the Hedgehog to great success. Every game thereafter becomes a Sonic game.... Sonic Grind Radio, Sonic Dragoon, Sonic Sonic Rocket, Sonic (which would be Rez, of course), Sonic de Amigo...

Every Namco game being fashioned after Pacman?

Granted Sega and Namco still branded a fair number of games after their most famous mascots -- but not to the extent that the majority of what they produced were drivel of that type. By using those properties a bit more sparingly, they helped to maintain a bit of freshness.

I'm not fond of violence in life, and don't particularly like it in games. While Nintendo could fuse Mario with GTA, I'd just as soon avoid it because neither of the concepts would particularly enthuse.

The Nintendo universe has long been a closed system, with creative entropy sapping the life from all its denizens -- both in style and substance. I don't see particularly great games coming from Nintendo.

[Mozgus]

All I could gather from your post is that you hate Nintendo for over-using their characters. That's hardly a reason to bash the games themselves. Why does it matter what your little avatar is in the game? That should be a minor point. All that matters is that the games remain fun, despite the genres of gaming Nintendo allows the Mushroom Kingdom to migrate to. I admit that it would be great if Nintendo grew some balls, and invented new properties (more often than they currently do) to accompany their attempts at each genre, but it certainly doesn't kill the experience to reuse these familiar faces and places.

[durkada]

All I could gather from your post is that you hate Nintendo for over-using their characters. That's hardly a reason to bash the games themselves. Why does it matter what your little avatar is in the game? That should be a minor point. All that matters is that the games remain fun, despite the genres of gaming Nintendo allows the Mushroom Kingdom to migrate to. I admit that it would be great if Nintendo grew some balls, and invented new properties (more often than they currently do) to accompany their attempts at each genre, but it certainly doesn't kill the experience to reuse these familiar faces and places.

Close -- what I am trying to convey is that by over pimping their overly whored characters, they are getting a diminishing return on their power. Thus, each new game which features Mario and Co. becomes a bit more stale than the previous -- the characters a bit more annoying -- the concepts a bit more daft. The hope being that these perennial characters would elevate an otherwise uninspired game to something special.

As I've just noted, I'm not particularly fond of the gameplay either. Something about many of the games feeling a bit chaotic in the party arena, and a little slow and boring in the other genres. There are a few notable exceptions -- Mario Vs. Donkey Kong was pretty good for a simple puzzler. Pikmin II was also quite good. Advanced Wars games were also fine tactical games for the portable market.

And I would heartily disagree with the idea that the characters do not infringe upon enjoyment of the game. They certainly spoil the experience the same way a bad actor can spoil an otherwise sound movie. If they were easily ignored, that would be one thing -- but everything I revile about them is constantly thrust into my face, into my ears. The characters, for any Nintendo game, become a principle part of the game.

Anyway, who said my hate had to be rational?

[Mozgus]

Heh, well I've stuck with Mario since the start, and these characters have yet to annoy me. In fact, I still get caught off guard and actually laugh at some moments, like Waluigi's pelvic thrust dance in Strikers.