Genres you just dont enjoy like you used to

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Genres you just dont enjoy like you used to

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Title says it all, I've been reading the rpg sub section lately and thinking to myself how much I used to love the jrpg genre. These days however everytime I start a file on a final fantasy or a dragon quest or any of their brethren, I enjoy them but get bored fast.

I think it might be the pace of the action, my brain might just require faster lightning displays of action and twitch style gameplay more than it wants to check menus and take turns. I wish it wasn't this way, I have fond memories of jrpgs from all through my childhood and teen years, and I still love the genre, but I just can't seem to stick it through with excitement.

Anybody else have this feeling with jrpgs or any genre really? Stopped loving platformers? Cant stand puzzle games anymore?
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RTS is the only genre I played a lot when I was younger that I don't really touch today. Outside of that my tastes haven't really changed much.
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I used to start a lot more JRPGs. I play far fewer now, but I finish almost as many. My mid-game drop rate for JRPGs is much improved.
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FPS - I loved early FPS games, but as time went on they got too complicated for me. The last one I think I played with any amount of seriousness was Unreal Tournament. Then there was an era where it felt like everything was either Counterstrike or muddy realistic-World War II. But really, I just want to run around and shoot stuff in Doom and not worry about things like "aiming up and down" or using secondary weapons, let alone lying prone, modifying weapons, etc. BLEH ON THAT!

RTS - I played a TON of Warcraft II and Starcraft when I was in high school. But honestly, I'd rather play something turn-based, where I don't need to be COMPLETELY FOCUSED AT ALL TIMES NONSTOP in order to win. I feel like I should give Warcraft III a serious try at some point, but this is a genre that no longer interests me much at all. I'm not especially good at the genre and don't really care about getting better.

Fighting - I used to love playing fighting games with a friend. Neither of us were particularly good, but it was a solid type of game to play with two players in an era where it didn't feel like there were many options. But I feel like now that I know about the existence of a "FIGHTING GAME COMMUNITY" that it's a lot harder to find enjoyment from these games. To play online means to lose (or to train because "playing for fun" is a losers mentality). I can practice single-player and become better than my friends who don't play fighting games; but IMO it's not fun to play against someone who isn't at the same skill level as me. I'm too good for the people who never play and too bad for the people who play endlessly. Single player can be super frustrating and RARELY do I feel genuinely rewarded after beating a game. Every once in a while I try another fighting game but I usually feel put off by how complicated it is. I just want to go back to the era where neither I nor my friends really cared about the genre, but we could reliably have fun playing fighters.
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Fighting games: I used to be so much time, quarters, or wallet openings to this. It just got stale. I mean I like the games still, enjoy some, but I can't pay like $40-60 for a fighting game anymore as i'll play it a couple of times and basically "forget" about it. I got Ultra SF2 for Switch, it has an hour on it I imagine. I don't hate it, but it's easier for me to do a fighting game on my 161in1 on the NeoGeo.

Racing games: Never liked the serious stuff, but the sci fi, or the goofy stuff I could play for hours on end often. F-Zero being probably dead, not liking the clones, and Mario Kart being a bullshit mario party item game on wheels with online centric focus being a huge turn off I have got nowhere left to run. I can look back, maybe lucky find a racer arcade machine, but other than that I can't commit.

Brawler arena games, basically Smash Bros the non-fighter and stuff like it such as Power Stone and friends. They bore me. I used to enjoy it, but they all just copycat the same boring ass mechanics, boring stage designs, weirdo items, total lack of personality or something new and interesting to do than just being a mostly sad re-run like a yearly Madden release style of game. The last couple I got into would have been power stone 2 and Smash Bros on gamecube, just ugh since.

Platform games - They've turned into not a love hate, but want to love but hate getting bored playing them pretty quick. I find it almost impossible to sit down and enjoy this type of game anymore and I wish I could really say why. I don't hate them, but even a good Mario game has a fair chance of sucking the motivation out of me (modern not past.) I feel guilty as my kid got me that Crash Trilogy pack for Switch and I've all but played it an hour roughly since Christmas. Crash1 was infuriating but the sequel was pretty enjoyable the little I touched it, I really need to play it. The same can be sad sadly of Mega Man 11 too from last year.

I'm tempted to add FPS, but if anything because I had more time years ago to play them more, but it's not that I like them much less. I never was into the sci-fi stuff or the ultra modern or future based junk as it's just dumb to me. You throw me in front of a WW2/Cold War era style game or some other unique period mechanic and I'm all good, and I'll enjoy it all the same even if I can't put a 100 hours on it like I used to. I guess an exclusion to that would be Doom, 2016 and Eternal I can very well dig into that.
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Shooters and MOBA. At some point I loved Overwatch, but then the game took some awkward turn and it just became too stressful to play. Too team-dependent, pretty much ushed game that only annoyed me. And moba... I guess, it's the community in them.
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JRPGs: I have not actually played one in a long time to know if I don't enjoy them like I used to but I used to play tons of them back in the day, especially in the ps1/ps2 era. This year I plan on playing either chrono trigger or mario rpg so maybe they will turn me back on to the genre.

Fighting games: I was a hardcore fighting game fanatic, I was very good and had a group of friends who were also very good, especially at tekken and street fighter. Although we are all still friends, their wives don't let them play video games and the area that I moved to has a crap internet connection so I can't get my fix online, which is a shame because I absolutely adore street fighter 5. I still play them from time to time just for nostalgias sake but they don't excite me the way they used to. Having said that, if I had better internet I would definitely get back into SF5.

Outside of that, I don't think my gaming preferences have really changed, I've always loved just about every genre outside of sports and racing and that still holds true with me today. I have always preferred 2d platformers and beat em ups as my favorite genres and that also still holds true today.
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Definitely JRPG's. There was a time a few years ago that I couldn't enjoy them at all.

They used to be my favorite genre for the longest of time, but sometime around the 7th generation I started to get seriously sick of them.

It wasn't the gameplay mind you, I probably enjoy JRPG gameplay today far more than I ever did in the old days.

The cookie cutter anime trope characters, aching on about the power of friendship, in banal, inane, needlessly convoluted stories, that seemed to always have a big, sometimes nonsensical twist in the middle just for the sake of it. Made me feel like just playing any modern (at the time) JRPG almost physically ill, characters like Vanille and Snow form FXIII made me literally want to smash my screen to pieces.

I spend the last few years, methodically deprogramming my self from paying any mind or expecting anything at all (well maybe not getting the urge to trash furniture and set the house on fire from unmitigated rage) from JRPG's story lines, and as such, I was able to start enjoying them again as a result.

Though I'm not sure if I actually enjoy playing JRPG's still, I enjoy completing them, with some exceptions they tend to be some of the most complicated games to complete, and usually require a great amount of planning and of course, grinding.

I'm not sure if I will ever play a JRPG again and be able to enjoy the story and characters at all, there's some old classics I haven't played yet, and they tend to fare better than most modern fluff in terms of story in general, but I think my standards of plot expectations have grown generally, and western RPG's are so much better at that, even if they do have their own baggage of tropes to content with.

The other would be Fighting games. I don't think I ever liked fighting games, I found the characters to be cool and all for sure, as any kid of the 90's would. But I don't think I ever enjoyed the actual gameplay. I was just playing them and buying them as part of the hype as a kid. Though I definitely thought I was enjoying them back then.

Is not the fighting fast paced action itself that I don't like, I actually enjoy that, is the Arcade born structure of Round 1, Fight for 30 seconds, so you can get my coins, you measly bastards!

The genre was born in the Arcades, and it seems to be mostly still stuck there, I want to fight for 30 minute a round (to an hour), not 30 seconds, in multi variant environment and against multiple and different opponents (though not necessarily) and not the same old tournament structure, I want to upgrade my characters and unlock more moves.

I basically gave up on the genre on the 7th generation, only getting some fighting games I already owned in the old days digitally on XBLA, a short romp with Smash Brawl on the Wii (I don't consider the Smash series to be vanilla fighting though) and more recently Pokken Tournament on the Wii U which was the only real exception I've made for fighting games recently.

Today, I can probably play an old-school fighting game and appreciate it for what it is, all 10 times or so it will take to finish Arcade mode with everyone. But with modern fighting games I expect an evolution, most single player modes in modern fighting games feel like filler, and the game being designed around competitive multiplayer gameplay, probably for the sake of eSports than actual players, given the actual sales numbers of fighting games these days.
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I used to big a big JRPG fan when I was a teen but over time I began to realize the genre's shortcomings. I remember playing Persona 3 FES and hitting a boss that was harder than usual and that I couldn't beat without grinding a bit. And I thought. Do I really want to do this? Do I care? And I realized I didn't.

The main issue with JRPGs is that they are strategy games with no strategy. It is not interesting nor fun to defeat a Rattata or a Slime or whatever the trash mob equivalent of the franchise is. 90% of the time you spend in the game are spent in the old "Press X, heal with necessary" routine and even bosses aand tougher enemies are not much different. And the best strategy is to grind and do the same repetitive action over and over.

I also stopped being a teen and realized how flimsy and poorly written most JRPG stories were.
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I'll have to half agree with JRPG games I guess. I can't play them like I used to, so I'm far more choosy about it. The last 3 I've touched, 2 have been Tales games and one I just started, the other I think must have been Xenoblade on the 3DS. Xeno is just overkill, I gave in and stopped on it as it was just plodding on so so slowly. Tales though I surprisingly did finish, and maybe I will with Vesperia on Switch too.

I don't mind the cookie cutter approach, though usually the ones I have been messing with aren't so much aside from maybe when I took a failed 20-30 plus hour attempt at the 3DS Dragon Quest 7 game so I didn't bother with 8. They are their own mold but have for a long time just dragged out far too long beyond their welcome. I find these days with the franchise I don't make my mind up to play to win, but if I think I can get enough hours out of one of them to play to fulfillment ends and that works.
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