What was the last movie you've seen?

Post by **marurun** » Sun May 22, 2016 1:20 pm

I want Old Spice Man (Isaiah Mustafa) to get it. The first American Bond!

Post by **jp1** » Sun May 22, 2016 1:24 pm

marurun wrote:I want Old Spice Man (Isaiah Mustafa) to get it. The first American Bond!

It looks like maybe Tom Hardy is up for consideration as well. If so, I think he would be great in the role.

Post by **prfsnl_gmr** » Sun May 22, 2016 4:13 pm

My vote's forIdris Elba. I don't think that any of the others really look the part. (I'm serious. Only Idris Elba has the "edge" so apparent in the literary Bond and the best Bond actors.)

Post by **REPO Man** » Sun May 22, 2016 7:17 pm

marurun wrote:I want Old Spice Man (Isaiah Mustafa) to get it. The first American Bond!

Actually, back in 1954 as part of the series Climax!, there was an adaptation of Casino Royale that reimagined James Bond as an American agent played by Barry Nelson, who was not only the first-ever Bond actor (predating Sean Connery in Dr. No by 8 years!) but was also from California.

Post by **noiseredux** » Mon May 23, 2016 10:22 am

um, so on the subject of Deadpool - over the years I've been pretty casual about comic book movies. I've seen a handful of Marvel ones, and a couple of Batman movies as I was never really a DC fan. Anyway, I was looking at Wikipedia's entry on the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and was slightly confused. It doesn't consider the X-Men or Fantastic Four movies part of that 'universe.' Really? That's weird to me. I mean, I can see the Raimi Spiderman films being their own thing I guess. And I can get things like Daredevil, Elektra, Ghostrider just being these little one-off movies. But as a casual observer, it seemed to me that the X-Men and Fantastic Four stuff were the bigger "franchises" that had really kicked off this resurgence in Marvel popularity. Go figure.

Post by **Ack** » Mon May 23, 2016 10:36 am

They're not a part of the same cinematic universe due to what production studios developed them. The X-Men and Fantastic Four films have been handled by Fox as the result of licensing deals signed decades ago, before Marvel was really interested in movies. Fox released their line, it sold incredibly well, and Marvel(and their new Disney overlords) got interested and started making their own movies. Unfortunately they can't use the characters licensed out to Fox, hence why those are not the same universe.

Post by **noiseredux** » Mon May 23, 2016 10:54 am

Ack wrote:Unfortunately they can't use the characters licensed out to Fox, hence why those are not the same universe.

weird/lame. So in a way there's two separate Marvel universes for movies right now? Because they're still making X-Men and F4 stuff, right?

And what's the deal w/ the Amazing Spider-Man movies? Do those acknowledge the Raimi trilogy or how does that work?

Post by **Ack** » Mon May 23, 2016 10:56 am

noiseredux wrote:
Ack wrote:Unfortunately they can't use the characters licensed out to Fox, hence why those are not the same universe.
weird/lame. So in a way there's two separate Marvel universes for movies right now? Because they're still making X-Men and F4 stuff, right?

And what's the deal w/ the Amazing Spider-Man movies? Do those acknowledge the Raimi trilogy or how does that work?

Yes, there are two universes: the Fox universe and the Disney/Marvel universe.

As for those, they're all just reboots. Raimi's was separate from the Amazing films that came out later, and the Spider-Man in Captain America 3 is a new version after Marvel managed to negotiate back the movie rights to the character from Fox.

Post by **prfsnl_gmr** » Mon May 23, 2016 11:00 am

Last night, my wife and I watched Orson Welles' The Lady from Shanghai.

It is a pretty awesome, insanely well-directed film noir, and like some of my favorite films in the genre, the plot does not tie together neatly. The courtroom scenes toward the end are a bit atonal and unnecessary, but they ultimately contribute to the film's strangeness, and the climax in a house of mirrors is simply phenomenal. Also, the film stars Rita Hayworth, who was probably the most beautiful woman in the world at the time of the film's production, and it is nearly impossible to take your eyes off of her whenever she is on the screen. (That bone structure!)

Post by **noiseredux** » Mon May 23, 2016 11:01 am

confusing.

Ok, one more question - and you can answer this for both the Fox stuff and the Disney stuff... how stand-alone are the various movies? Like, can we watch whichever ones we might find at yard sales in whatever order we find them or do we *need* to watch them in release order to really get them? I'm guessing that numbered installments (like the Ironman ones) are sort of chronologically necessary, but maybe the other ones are less so?

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