S2 (my segasaturn 2 beta topic)

Post by **RyaNtheSlayA** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:09 pm

Mozgus wrote:
RyaNtheSlayA wrote:i dont know why you missed my post on a custom version of linux. And I highly doubt you could teach a monkey to build a computer in a couple hours, mabe a couple weeks if its a smart one, but not a couple hours.
He's just saying it's not hard, and it isnt. But a lot of people think it is. I can't count the number of people who have told others that I'm a computer genius just because they found out I can plug some shit together and install XP on it. Maybe it's just Kansas, I dunno.

Yes, thats very much kansas lol, i live in colorado and we go up through kansas to get up to missouri every year and well im not really impressed with the common level of intteligence there. Its really funny though when people freek out over something very simple.

Post by **Mozgus** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:41 pm

RyaNtheSlayA wrote:Yes, thats very much kansas lol, i live in colorado and we go up through kansas to get up to missouri every year and well im not really impressed with the common level of intteligence there. Its really funny though when people freek out over something very simple.

Well I'm pretty retarded about cars, while nearly anyone with a penis in Kansas knows his way around an engine. In fact just yesterday my current neighbor was asking if I found another job yet, and said:

"Well, why don't you get a job fixing cars?"

"I don't know the first thing about them. I don't even know how my peddle makes it go forward.

"Woah...that's weird! Haha!"

Post by **RyaNtheSlayA** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:08 am

Mozgus wrote:
RyaNtheSlayA wrote:Yes, thats very much kansas lol, i live in colorado and we go up through kansas to get up to missouri every year and well im not really impressed with the common level of intteligence there. Its really funny though when people freek out over something very simple.
Well I'm pretty retarded about cars, while nearly anyone with a penis in Kansas knows his way around an engine. In fact just yesterday my current neighbor was asking if I found another job yet, and said:

"Well, why don't you get a job fixing cars?"

"I don't know the first thing about them. I don't even know how my peddle makes it go forward.

"Woah...that's weird! Haha!"

lol i know how that feels, my friend from iowa is a car buff and hes like talking about engines and stuff then at the end there was a blank silence and I says "Sooooooo what does that all do?"

He got very anoyed

Post by **metaleggman** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:41 am

pics or it ain't real, ryan.

Post by **marurun** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:12 pm

You don't know much about the GPL, do you? You certainly can sell software that's been released under the GPL for a profit. If you make changes to the original GPLed source and then distribute it in any fashion, free or for charge, you must also publish or make available freely the modified source. There are other conditions, but none of them prohibit selling GPLed code.

devilmyarse wrote:Unless you code everything from scratch, modding an existing emulator for Saturn is not going to work as it will have probably been released under GPL, which specifically states you can't sell the software for profit.

Post by **Niode** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:13 pm

marurun wrote:You don't know much about the GPL, do you? You certainly can sell software that's been released under the GPL for a profit. If you make changes to the original GPLed source and then distribute it in any fashion, free or for charge, you must also publish or make available freely the modified source. There are other conditions, but none of them prohibit selling GPLed code.

devilmyarse wrote:Unless you code everything from scratch, modding an existing emulator for Saturn is not going to work as it will have probably been released under GPL, which specifically states you can't sell the software for profit.

Well what I meant was that he couldn't make any money from his 'project' as he can't take open source and make it closed source. If he complies with the GPL he has to release the source code. Then what is stopping anybody else doing it for free? There's no business in this. There's no business proposition as there is absolutely zero possibility of making money out of it.

I'm just trying to convince this lad to stop dreaming before he gets himself.. well.. his parents sued.

Post by **RyaNtheSlayA** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:36 pm

devilmyarse wrote:
marurun wrote:You don't know much about the GPL, do you? You certainly can sell software that's been released under the GPL for a profit. If you make changes to the original GPLed source and then distribute it in any fashion, free or for charge, you must also publish or make available freely the modified source. There are other conditions, but none of them prohibit selling GPLed code.

devilmyarse wrote:Unless you code everything from scratch, modding an existing emulator for Saturn is not going to work as it will have probably been released under GPL, which specifically states you can't sell the software for profit.
Well what I meant was that he couldn't make any money from his 'project' as he can't take open source and make it closed source. If he complies with the GPL he has to release the source code. Then what is stopping anybody else doing it for free? There's no business in this. There's no business proposition as there is absolutely zero possibility of making money out of it.

I'm just trying to convince this lad to stop dreaming before he gets himself.. well.. his parents sued.

dude i just stated that im using it for my personal use, read further into comments man.

Post by **andymol21** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:40 pm

It sounds like a really good idea to me, the only problem with it is the selling. What your making can be made by anyone with a bit of knowhow, a screwdriver, and a pocket full of cash. Sure the Linux OS sounds like a good idea and the upscaling of Saturn games sounds really nice, but to then sell it to people or companies for money runs you into a whole world of trouble that I know I wouldn't want to be dealing with at the age of 14! I've been thinking of doing this sort of thing myself with a micro motherboard and an old NES case, for that retro feeling

Really, it will be amazing when it's done, but I think you should keep it to yourself, or freely distrubute it and be the king among Saturn emulators.

EDIT: Did a bit of browsing and came up with this, looks like someone has already tried this idea sort of backwards... http://www.mini-itx.com/projects/saturnpc/gallery.asp

Post by **Niode** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:13 pm

RyaNtheSlayA wrote:
devilmyarse wrote:
marurun wrote:You don't know much about the GPL, do you? You certainly can sell software that's been released under the GPL for a profit. If you make changes to the original GPLed source and then distribute it in any fashion, free or for charge, you must also publish or make available freely the modified source. There are other conditions, but none of them prohibit selling GPLed code.

Well what I meant was that he couldn't make any money from his 'project' as he can't take open source and make it closed source. If he complies with the GPL he has to release the source code. Then what is stopping anybody else doing it for free? There's no business in this. There's no business proposition as there is absolutely zero possibility of making money out of it.

I'm just trying to convince this lad to stop dreaming before he gets himself.. well.. his parents sued.
dude i just stated that im using it for my personal use, read further into comments man.

'Dude', you just seem to change your intention like the wind. Can I really be blamed for complacency in 6 thread topic man?

Post by **marurun** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:22 pm

RyaNtheSlayA, you were originally saying you wanted to shop it around as a prototype. That strongly implies intent to sell.

If your intentions have changed you have to make a clear announcement to that effects. We can't read your mind. Internet postings usually don't convey what's in people's heads the way said people think they do.

Now you're talking like you just want to make a Linux or WinCE based emulation box in which you simply carefully pick your PC hardware. That's cool, but a far cry from what your initial posting seems to indicate.