SNES Console Revision Differences. SHVC-CPU-01 vs 1CHIP-Mini

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Anyone know where you can buy these official RGB cables and S-Video cables? Checked on eBay, and only saw SCART cables that went for 90 bucks and S Video ones that go for 40.
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I can't say with absolute certainty, but Earthworm Jim 2 might be one to add to the list of iffy games on a 1CHIP SNES. I'm not sure if it's a fault with my console though.

I got a PAL 1CHIP second hand back in 2009. Everything I have plays fine on it with the exception of Earthworm Jim 2. The sound effects are slightly garbled. Plays perfectly on an older 2 chip SNES I have. I only realised the difference between the two machines when I saw that the 1CHIP had a sharper RGB picture than the older one.
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Got a major one to add to the list of games that don't work properly on the 1-CHIP revision. In this case, I have a 1-CHIP-03 console. I just discovered today after ordering the game on ebay that "Secret of Evermore" doesn't work AT ALL on the 1-CHIP-03. I confirmed by making sure the leads were spotlessly clean and checked the game on my APU revision SNES console, where it works perfectly fine. On the 1CHIP-03, the initial fiery Squaresoft logo will fade in and then out to black, and the game just hangs on the black screen forever. I waited several minutes and pressed different buttons on the controller, removed the controller, reset the machine, etc. and nothing works. It is simply incompatible with the 1CHIP-03, and likely will have the same result on the -01 and -02 revisions.
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Can anyone else with 1CHIP or SNES-Mini consoles test those games mentioned above? Need more data before adding them to my original post as potential problematic games.
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I've got a mini (and SHVC) and will test out Secret of Evermore this weekend if no one beats me to it.
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SNES_is_the_Best wrote:Can anyone else with 1CHIP or SNES-Mini consoles test those games mentioned above? Need more data before adding them to my original post as potential problematic games.



It DOES NOT work on the 1Chip-03 regular SNES. What more data do you need than that? Even if it works on other revisions, that's still enough to list it.
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Firebrandx wrote:
SNES_is_the_Best wrote:Can anyone else with 1CHIP or SNES-Mini consoles test those games mentioned above? Need more data before adding them to my original post as potential problematic games.



It DOES NOT work on the 1Chip-03 regular SNES. What more data do you need than that? Even if it works on other revisions, that's still enough to list it.

I think he's just looking for corroboration. One person has an issue with a game/system combo, it might be a fluke (unlikely, but possible). Two people show the same issue, far less likely to just be a fluke.
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Sorry for my rage earlier, I felt like I wasn't being taken seriously.

At any rate, my XRGB-mini arrived yesterday, and I was able to confirm that the original model SNES 1-CHIP-03 does not have csync hooked up. My serial number indicates I have one of the original production lines of the 1-CHIP-03, so this would mean likely all 1-CHIP-03 original SNES units do not have it hooked up either. Thankfully the mod to hook it up is a simple solder job of one little wire on the motherboard.

Right now, I've got my APU revision SNES hooked up and it looks freakin amazing with the XRGB-mini! The downside is there are faint diagonal jail bars, which show up in any hookup method because the APU revision SNES sucks that way. I'm going to mod my 1-CHIP-03 today and give that one a go on the XRGB-mini.

Edit: Just finished the wire mod for CSYNC found here:

http://blake.remoteshell.org/consoles/s ... HIP-03.png

The results are STUNNING! I've got it outputting RGB JP-21 into my XRGB-mini, and the pixels are RAZOR sharp! There's no lag on my SONY TV when set to game mode, so it's absolutely amazing to witness. The downside is I still have to use the APU SNES if I want to play Secret of Evermore, but this is still freakin awesome nonetheless!

Edit 2: Did some ghosting and stripe tests under CSYNC RGB for the 1-CHIP-03. I could not detect any sort of ghosting or stripe whatsoever. The pixels are cut like glass and have perfect borders.
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Update:

After modding the CSYNC in the 1-CHIP-03, I gave Secret of Evermore another try and it actually works now! I'm not sure why this is, and it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I'll take it, but I'd still like to know why the game was crashing before the mod and now seems to work fine after.
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Firebrandx wrote:At any rate, my XRGB-mini arrived yesterday, and I was able to confirm that the original model SNES 1-CHIP-03 does not have csync hooked up. My serial number indicates I have one of the original production lines of the 1-CHIP-03, so this would mean likely all 1-CHIP-03 original SNES units do not have it hooked up either. Thankfully the mod to hook it up is a simple solder job of one little wire on the motherboard.


That's really weird. It's an NTSC SNES? It has RGB hooked up, but not sync? I wouldn't be able to confirm if this is the case with later revisions. My 1-Chip SNES is actually a PAL model that I hardwired to be NTSC. It wouldn't surprise me if PAL had sync hooked up but NTSC didn't.

Firebrandx wrote:Right now, I've got my APU revision SNES hooked up and it looks freakin amazing with the XRGB-mini! The downside is there are faint diagonal jail bars, which show up in any hookup method because the APU revision SNES sucks that way. I'm going to mod my 1-CHIP-03 today and give that one a go on the XRGB-mini.


I've yet to try out my 1-chip with the XRGB. Since it's PAL, it requires 75ohm resistors in the RGB cable. But of course, the cable I have has 220uF caps in it, which is what the NTSC consoles require. But, I have another RGB cable that's straight-through (no caps or resistors) that I use with my N64 (the RGB mod that I did on my N64 does not require any components in the cable, and having any will have a negative effect on the picture). I plan to wire in some 75ohm resisters in my PAL SNES so that I can just use the straight-through cable. Then I can finally see how the 1-chip looks with the XRGB.
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