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What's the relation between Salamander and Gradius?

by Erik_Twice Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:19 am

All I know is that they are very similar games and that the Ripple laser in Gradius II was strenghtened because it was never used in Salamander.

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Re: What's the relation between Salamander and Gradius?

by ExedExes Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:05 am

Salamander is simply a spin-off of the main Gradius series. The P1 ship is still the Vic Viper.
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Re: What's the relation between Salamander and Gradius?

by BoneSnapDeez Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:13 pm

THEN WHO WAS NEMESIS?
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Re: What's the relation between Salamander and Gradius?

by pierrot Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:10 pm

I like to think of Salamander as the sequel to the original Gradius. In the intro scenes for Gradius II and III, they show scenes from Salamander after the scene from OG Gradius.

It's generally considered a spinoff to Gradius, though. (Even though the mother brain is the first stage boss.)

Also, I don't remember there being any laser other than the Ripple Laser in Salamander, unless the Lord British had the standard laser.
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Re: What's the relation between Salamander and Gradius?

by fastbilly1 Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:34 pm

It just has the most badass looking famicom cart in existence:
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Re: What's the relation between Salamander and Gradius?

by Xeogred Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:54 pm

From what I've seen some of the Salamander games have overhead stages? I don't think Gradius ever does.

One noteworthy style difference is that Salamander seems a lot heavier on the weird, fleshy organic stages than Gradius, which is usually more mechanical and sci-fi.
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Re: What's the relation between Salamander and Gradius?

by pierrot Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:24 pm

Xeogred wrote:From what I've seen some of the Salamander games have overhead stages? I don't think Gradius ever does.

One noteworthy style difference is that Salamander seems a lot heavier on the weird, fleshy organic stages than Gradius, which is usually more mechanical and sci-fi.


It does alternate between horizontal and vertical stages. The Innerspace theme is really limited to the first stage, though. After that, it's the usual asteroid belts, fiery corridors and space ship stuff.
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Re: What's the relation between Salamander and Gradius?

by ExedExes Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:16 pm

BoneSnapDeez wrote:THEN WHO WAS NEMESIS?

Nemesis was just the name used for the Gradius arcade game outside Japan. In all territories, it was also the first GB game in the series which borrowed elements from the MSX ports of Gradius and Gradius II. However, Nemesis II was released as Gradius Interstellar Assault in the US.

pierrot wrote:Also, I don't remember there being any laser other than the Ripple Laser in Salamander, unless the Lord British had the standard laser.

Both the standard and ripple laser are in the arcade and NES ports. The arcade port of Life Force calls the ripple the "Pulse" laser.
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Re: What's the relation between Salamander and Gradius?

by d123456 Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:14 pm

fastbilly1 wrote:It just has the most badass looking famicom cart in existence:
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Wow, that might just be the most badass looking cart in existence, I want it.
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Re: What's the relation between Salamander and Gradius?

by Erik_Twice Sun Oct 13, 2013 5:06 pm

Thanks for all the info guys :D

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