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Re: Good shmups for beginner

by noiseredux Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:08 pm

Menegrothx wrote:I'm deffo gonna get it but isn't it more of a regular shmup compared to other Cave products?


regular? Not sure what you mean. Still bullet hell. It's horizontal (like Akai Katana) though. It's my favorite. I don't know. I feel like it's a good one for beginners and shmuppers. It's got varying difficulties.
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Re: Good shmups for beginner

by Menegrothx Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:28 pm

I've played Touhou games, Jamestown, eXceed 2nd Vampire, DoDonPachi, Terra Diver and Radiant Silvergun so I'm not totally new to the genre (not claiming that I'm very good nor experienced either). I want to show my big sister how crazy these games can be the next time she comes over so I want the most ridiculous bullet hell there is for the system :) I plan on getting all of the 360 games over time, or atleast the ones already mentioned so far.
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Re: Good shmups for beginner

by noiseredux Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:39 pm

Menegrothx wrote: I want to show my big sister how crazy these games can be the next time she comes over so I want the most ridiculous bullet hell there is for the system


well, on 360 Mega Black Label Mode of Deathsmiles you can set the difficulty to 999. It's insane and I've never beat a single level on 999.
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Re: Good shmups for beginner

by dunpeal2064 Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:45 am

Most ridiculous bullet hell for the system (imo)

Futari Ultra
SDOJ
Pink Sweets

It depends on what you want her to see. If you want a curtain of bullets to actually dodge through, I would go for Futari God Mode. Its slightly more tame than Ultra, so you can actually show her some of the game instead of dying right away. Practice getting your multiplier up to max before the Stage 1 midboss, and then canel the bullets. The entire screen will fill with giant, flashing gold numbers, and her eyes will glow. Then you can proceed to the boss, and the screen will fill with bullets for you to weave through, and her eyes will exlode.

If you want her to just see as much flak on the screen as possible, then Pink Sweets is a good choice. Getting to the Stage 1 boss is cake, then just destroy every part of it, stop shooting to charge your shield, and watch the screen fill with more bullets than are likely dodge-able. As a backup for this catagory, I would say Deathsmiles MBL Rank 999 would work, although the suicide bullets are this ugly yellow, so its not as visually appealing (imo)

If you want to start a game and die, go for Futari Ultra or SDOJ Expert. DFK BL Strong could work too.
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Re: Good shmups for beginner

by god Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:36 am

I love Mega Drive shmups but the only one I've actually beaten is TF3. 'Whip Rush' is definately worth a shot too. Good difficulty curve and very compelling, it isn't going to blow any minds but is a fun and solid example of the genre.
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Re: Good shmups for beginner

by dunpeal2064 Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:41 am

TF3 was my first MD shmup clear, its definitely managable.

If you can take down Thunder Force 3, you could probably take down MUSHA as well. Once you get a feel for it, the game throws so many 1ups at you that you can sort of coast through. I'd say its easier than TF3

On the topic if good beginner MD shmups, if anyone has the CD add-on, Lords of Thunder seemed pretty easy. Took me about 3 credits before I got the 1cc. Not sure if the difficulty is toned down from the Turbo version, or if its just an easy game.
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Re: Good shmups for beginner

by Violent By Design Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:33 pm

dunpeal2064 wrote:TF3 was my first MD shmup clear, its definitely managable.

If you can take down Thunder Force 3, you could probably take down MUSHA as well. Once you get a feel for it, the game throws so many 1ups at you that you can sort of coast through. I'd say its easier than TF3

On the topic if good beginner MD shmups, if anyone has the CD add-on, Lords of Thunder seemed pretty easy. Took me about 3 credits before I got the 1cc. Not sure if the difficulty is toned down from the Turbo version, or if its just an easy game.

I've read that Lords of Thunder is much easier on the Sega CD.
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Re: Good shmups for beginner

by dunpeal2064 Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:57 am

^That makes sense. I only popped in a credit or two when I had the Turbo version, and I don't remember coasting too far, but ran straight through the Sega CD version in one cred.
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Re: Good shmups for beginner

by marurun Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:47 am

GigaWing on the Dreamcast. It has crap tons of bullets, and special attacks to turn those bullets back. It certainly throws a lot of crap around on the screen.
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Re: Good shmups for beginner

by dunpeal2064 Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:00 am

Giga Wing is nice in that it is only 4 levels and not TOO tough if just going for a clear, but it has a lot of depth in the scoring.

I think the best thing to do is to find the shmup that you are head-over-heals for, and just stick to that for a bit. You will improve at a much greater rate if you enjoy the game enough to push through, even after dying 10 times in one sitting. Just get stubborn with it, and refuse to give up, and you will improve very quickly!
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