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Thanks for that little excerpt on Salamander/Life Force Ghegs. It was far more convoluted than I thought. You'd think it would have crossed there minds when naming these games!
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elmagicochrisg wrote:Seven pages, and still no mention of Isolated Warrior.

For shame.

How about 10 pages and no mention of Galaga?? :(

You can also add Galaxian to the list. It was released in Japan, but not North America
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Galaga, Galaxian, and Gyruss I just didn't think about because of how different they are from the shmups we normally have in mind. :lol:

You can also add Millipede and technically Spy Hunter.
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o.pwuaioc wrote:Galaga, Galaxian, and Gyruss I just didn't think about because of how different they are from the shmups we normally have in mind. :lol:

You can also add Millipede and technically Spy Hunter.


What do shmup fans consider those? Proto-shmups or somesuch?

Also if we're gonna start talking about Spy Hunter are we gonna include King's Knight too?
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AppleQueso wrote:
o.pwuaioc wrote:Galaga, Galaxian, and Gyruss I just didn't think about because of how different they are from the shmups we normally have in mind. :lol:

You can also add Millipede and technically Spy Hunter.


What do shmup fans consider those? Proto-shmups or somesuch?

Also if we're gonna start talking about Spy Hunter are we gonna include King's Knight too?

We already included that one! :lol:
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I consider those Arena Shooters personally. Same genre I'd put Geometry Wars in.
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dunpeal2064 wrote:I consider those Arena Shooters personally. Same genre I'd put Geometry Wars in.

I can kind of see Galaxian/Millipede/Galaga's resemblance to other arena shooters, but they do have a slightly different feel to them. Gyruss though is technically no different than other shmups except in orientation alone. Spy Hunter is a pure shmup with no scoring.
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Oh yeah, I was more talking about Galaxian/Millipede. They do feel a bit different, but I just lump single-screen shooters together. Same with how Xevious and Dodonpachi, to me, are nothing alike, but Id still put them in the same category.

I personally reserve "shmup" for forced scrolling 2 d shooters, as there are so many games that fit even this strict requirement.
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dunpeal2064 wrote:Oh yeah, I was more talking about Galaxian/Millipede. They do feel a bit different, but I just lump single-screen shooters together. Same with how Xevious and Dodonpachi, to me, are nothing alike, but Id still put them in the same category.

I personally reserve "shmup" for forced scrolling 2 d shooters, as there are so many games that fit even this strict requirement.


But the background in Galaga scrolls past!
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dunpeal2064 wrote:Oh yeah, I was more talking about Galaxian/Millipede. They do feel a bit different, but I just lump single-screen shooters together. Same with how Xevious and Dodonpachi, to me, are nothing alike, but Id still put them in the same category.

I personally reserve "shmup" for forced scrolling 2 d shooters, as there are so many games that fit even this strict requirement.

I wonder where does that leave Defender 2? Unless you also want to classify that as some sort of arena shooter. That one always struck me as difficult to classify.
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