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Re: Symphony of the Night reseal? Advise

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:48 am
by AppleQueso
Why do you guys give a flip if someone's out there collecting sealed games? Does it matter why people collect? Does it not occur to you that a lot of people think all of us are flat out crazy for blowing tons of money on stuff we can easily get via virtual console/psn, retro compilations, or even emulation?

Sealed collecting is a niche that gets a lot of venom on here and I seriously don't understand what the problem is.

Re: Symphony of the Night reseal? Advise

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:56 am
by Zing
I think the idea is that sealed games are effectively out of circulation forever, as it is unlikely to ever be opened at this point. An opened game that is resold could actually be played someday. This causes the supply of playable games to be smaller. Since most people on these and other forums enjoy playing the games they collect, this affects a high number of people, who are then vocal with their displeasure.

Re: Symphony of the Night reseal? Advise

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:00 pm
by BoneSnapDeez
AppleQueso wrote:Why do you guys give a flip if someone's out there collecting sealed games? Does it matter why people collect? Does it not occur to you that a lot of people think all of us are flat out crazy for blowing tons of money on stuff we can easily get via virtual console/psn, retro compilations, or even emulation?

Sealed collecting is a niche that gets a lot of venom on here and I seriously don't understand what the problem is.


I don't have a problem with sealed collecting per se, I was just joking around on page 1.

What I do have a problem with is sealed game hoarders/resellers. Like, folks who bought 10 copies of Xenosaga at launch hoping to flip them on ebay later on. Eff that.

Re: Symphony of the Night reseal? Advise

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:03 pm
by AppleQueso
Zing wrote:I think the idea is that sealed games are effectively out of circulation forever, as it is unlikely to ever be opened at this point. An opened game that is resold could actually be played someday. This causes the supply of playable games to be smaller. Since most people on these and other forums enjoy playing the games they collect, this affects a high number of people, who are then vocal with their displeasure.


The existence of sealed games and collector's doesn't cause the supply to be smaller, especially considering that sealed collectors are the only ones interested in buying sealed games anyway.

Even that aside, in terms of availability of playable copies, how is a sealed collector buying a sealed game and never opening it any different than someone buying a cart only copy and never selling it?

BoneSnapDeez wrote:
AppleQueso wrote:Why do you guys give a flip if someone's out there collecting sealed games? Does it matter why people collect? Does it not occur to you that a lot of people think all of us are flat out crazy for blowing tons of money on stuff we can easily get via virtual console/psn, retro compilations, or even emulation?

Sealed collecting is a niche that gets a lot of venom on here and I seriously don't understand what the problem is.


I don't have a problem with sealed collecting per se, I was just joking around on page 1.

What I do have a problem with is sealed game hoarders/resellers. Like, folks who bought 10 copies of Xenosaga at launch hoping to flip them on ebay later on. Eff that.


That's more of a speculator thing, isn't it? Buying games new to leave them sealed in the hopes that you can sell them off for a huge profit later is different from actively being a sealed collector.

Re: Symphony of the Night reseal? Advise

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:17 pm
by Opa Opa
AppleQueso wrote:Sealed collecting is a niche that gets a lot of venom on here and I seriously don't understand what the problem is.

I believe sealed collecting gets some hate because it conflicts with the PLAYING aspect of video games.

Re: Symphony of the Night reseal? Advise

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:33 pm
by Zing
AppleQueso wrote:
Zing wrote:I think the idea is that sealed games are effectively out of circulation forever, as it is unlikely to ever be opened at this point. An opened game that is resold could actually be played someday. This causes the supply of playable games to be smaller. Since most people on these and other forums enjoy playing the games they collect, this affects a high number of people, who are then vocal with their displeasure.


Even that aside, in terms of availability of playable copies, how is a sealed collector buying a sealed game and never opening it any different than someone buying a cart only copy and never selling it?


That is why I said "an open game that is resold".

What if a group of people were buying up popular games and simply burning them. Would that be acceptable? Think of how much derision GameStop gets for their mass destruction of unsold games, and those are games that no one really wants.

Re: Symphony of the Night reseal? Advise

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:37 pm
by AppleQueso
Zing wrote:
AppleQueso wrote:
Zing wrote:I think the idea is that sealed games are effectively out of circulation forever, as it is unlikely to ever be opened at this point. An opened game that is resold could actually be played someday. This causes the supply of playable games to be smaller. Since most people on these and other forums enjoy playing the games they collect, this affects a high number of people, who are then vocal with their displeasure.


Even that aside, in terms of availability of playable copies, how is a sealed collector buying a sealed game and never opening it any different than someone buying a cart only copy and never selling it?


That is why I said "an open game that is resold".

What if a group of people were buying up popular games and simply burning them. Would that be acceptable? Think of how much derision GameStop gets for their mass destruction of unsold games, and those are games that no one really wants.


Are we seriously comparing sealed collectors to people destroying games? Come on here.

Re: Symphony of the Night reseal? Advise

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:22 pm
by Hazerd
aaron wrote:
i don't think there's anything wrong with that. i don't get the sealed game hate at all. it's no less ridiculous than collecting more video games than you'll ever have time to play.


I buy them so in case they become hard to find or more valuable later on, i dont have to worry since i got a copy cheap.

It's all part of the wonderous world of the backlog...

Re: Symphony of the Night reseal? Advise

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:43 pm
by aaron
Hazerd wrote:
aaron wrote:
i don't think there's anything wrong with that. i don't get the sealed game hate at all. it's no less ridiculous than collecting more video games than you'll ever have time to play.


I buy them so in case they become hard to find or more valuable later on, i dont have to worry since i got a copy cheap.

It's all part of the wonderous world of the backlog...


i mean, i get that, but from a normal person's point of view, that's definitely not a legitimate reason :)

not saying i'm that normal person, i have cut my gaming collection severely in recent years and i still have too much for me to reasonably play.