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Re: What are you playing?

by PretentiousHipster Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:20 pm

My oh my is the first Zelda impressive. I already wrote around 500 words of rough notes within 45 minutes of playing. It still creates a world full of immersion and gave me a sense of wonder. It is quite hard, but I find myself improving quite quickly. Basically you figure out the controls and the patterns of the regular enemies within 30 minutes. It is quite obtuse with finding stuff, but let's face it, Ocarina of Time was just as obtuse. Only minor complaints are the hitbox issues with picking up rupees and hearts, and I HATE that you start with 3 hearts when you're respawning, even if you have more than that as your max health.

EDIT: Also the retrotink 2x is just amazing. Link and the numbers and letters are so smooth, and it records stuff at 60 fps.
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Re: What are you playing?

by SuperDerpBro Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:29 pm

pook99 wrote:
SuperDerpBro wrote:Playing through the GBA Castlevania games. Still waiting for Bloodstained to go below $30 CAD. Mmissed it on black Friday :(

https://www.exophase.com/user/SuperDerpBro/


If you want a cheap way to play bloodstained sign up for game pass, you could usually find a promo to have the first month be a dollar, but worst case its 5 dollars and bloodstained is on it. You wouldn't own the game but it will give you a chance to play it cheap.

I'm actually really glad I played bloodstained on game pass, I was looking forward to it but wound up really disliking it.


I guess i could do that and then buy the disc later. Hopefully it will be cheaper by the time i finish the GBA and then the DS Castlevania games, heh .
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Re: What are you playing?

by pierrot Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:32 pm

prfsnl_gmr wrote:Counterpoint: Zelda II has better combat than Wind Waker.

It's my opinion, of course, that practically every other Zelda game has better combat than Zelda II. I'm not so sure Zelda II's combat is any better than Wand of Gamelon's, even.


PretentiousHipster wrote:It wasn't the controls of the boat I was frustrated with. It can be summarized perfectly in the beginning. I tried to pick up a pig. You have to be in an EXACT position to pick up. Not too close, not too far. While playing it last time I felt like this was happening with practically everything in the game. But, as I said, this is probably just my fault anyways.

Oh, hmm. That probably is true. I don't personally remember that being the case in WW, but it does kind of remind of trying to pick up cuccos in the N64 games. Sort of reminds me of Yu Suzuki talking about the limitations of talking with NPCs in typical JRPGs, too.


PretentiousHipster wrote:It is quite obtuse with finding stuff, but let's face it, Ocarina of Time was just as obtuse.

It certainly is stupidly designed in that way. I don't feel like OoT was quite as stupid about it, though. I find there to be a lot of false freedom with the original LoZ. Not like Dragon Slayer, where it just gives you all the tools, and says, 'Go get 'em, tiger. Get yourself into dragon slaying form, 'cause in later maps, we're going to start taking tools away to see what you can really do.' Do you want to immediately break the pillars down to go directly to the first dragon? Go for it! Want to build a safe zone around your house, and murder kill monsters until they dare not test you ever again? Also allowed, although some enemies will reset your stats if they get a hand on you. You can power up however you see fit with the resources available on the map, even. LoZ owes almost everything to Dragon Slayer, but it still fucked up the formula. LoZ starts out with this idea that the world is your oyster, but roadblocks you at almost every turn until you find a bunch of dumb items buried away in impossibly abstruse locations. At least in later games you have the freedom to chop down every last blade of grass. LoZ practically forces you to burn every single bush, bomb every tile of mountain/wall, push on every stone/statue/block. I don't outright dislike LoZ, but it probably has one of the worst gameplay loops ever.
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Re: What are you playing?

by PretentiousHipster Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:46 pm

Yea I did notice after a while of LoZ I just looked at guides to at least see what areas to go to, but my first impressions of it is me loving it.

I didn't know about Dragon Slayer. Apparently Hydlide also set the formula, but was released a few months later. I guess after beating LoZ I'll try those games out before reviewing it. Would you recommend I go through Hydlide as well? I noticed it's cheap on ebay for the NES version so I'll try that one too if you recommend it.
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by marurun Sun Jan 12, 2020 9:06 pm

I rather disagree about Dragon Slayer vs Zelda. LoZ owes a lot to games that came before it, but is ultimately a refinement of those forms meant to make that style of play accessible to a much broader audience. It does have a lot of gating, but there are a number of opportunities to go outside the intended order of things and persevere without important upgrades. Basically, a lot of what you like about Dragon Slayer makes it a tough sell for portions of the gaming public, even at the time. LoZ is a main-streaming of some of the core ideas, turning them into a much more broadly palatable end product. It also doesn’t have the benefit of the increased system memory available in most early PCs of the time. As it is, I think it is an elegant distillation of that type of game that holds up fairly well even today.
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Re: What are you playing?

by PretentiousHipster Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:37 pm

Around 2/3rds done with Freelancer, but I think I'm done with it. I won't consider it beaten of course. The main missions are incredibly exciting, and I just love how in-depth the game is. There are so many planets and TONS of NPCs. They also include quite a few side missions. The repetition is what ruins it. The conversations with the NPCs only have slight variations, but follow the exact same script. There was a time where 3 side missions in a row were in the exact same place, with the exact same amount of enemies, and when they insult you, it's usually the same insult. They should have just focused on the main missions are it would have been a masterpiece if that was the case.

For the next PC game I will be playing Obsidian. Although the zelda series is by far my highest priority.

I'm 54% done with Red Dead Redemption. I'm playing it for around 30 minutes a day. I can see how much of a masterpiece it is on paper, but I can only play it in short bursts now as it's starting to overstay its welcome.

The Wind Waker is picking up, although I am having the same problem with its frustrating controls. I'm at Hyrule Castle so should beat it soon. Although I remember it crashing down quality-wise in the last few dungeons and the infamous part. I'm still loving the original Legend of Zelda. The difficulty progression is enough to keep it challenging, but not too big of a jump. Except with the fact that the third boss is the fourth miniboss. Dodongo was also a joke.
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Re: What are you playing?

by marurun Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:19 pm

Despite some questionable art and technical design decisions, I'm actually enjoying the crap out of Bloodstained. It's a very flawed game, but it is a lot of fun to me. It triggers all the same dopamine hits for me that SotN did.
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Re: What are you playing?

by noiseredux Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:37 pm

marurun wrote:Despite some questionable art and technical design decisions, I'm actually enjoying the crap out of Bloodstained. It's a very flawed game, but it is a lot of fun to me. It triggers all the same dopamine hits for me that SotN did.


I loved ROTN. I loved Curse Of The Moon. I hope the Bloodstained series continues on!
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Re: What are you playing?

by PretentiousHipster Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:35 pm

Obsidian is definitely avant-garde. It's fascinating. As soon as it answers some questions like 5 more questions appear... and then it gets weird. Apparently it makes fun of Myst at one point, but I never played it (Yea... I know) so it went over my head. If Myst is anything like this then I gotta get around to the series. I actually found the entire series in a thrift store too so will have to get around to it.

It literally just drops you in the middle of nowhere in the beginning. This is the first screen

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Eventually you come across this which looks gorgeous btw

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Finally, some questions are starting to be answered when you find a laptop in a tent. And yay it's FMV

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Then it starts getting strange...

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The best part about this? This is from maybe like 30 minutes of playing it!
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Re: What are you playing?

by PresidentLeever Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:54 pm

These are some cool namedrops to put in a staff roll (from Ultracore/Hardcore, which I just beat).

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