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by Tanooki Sun Jun 12, 2016 7:09 pm

I don't think anyone is arguing an honest rarity. The problem is the common 500k-1M printed games going for stupid prices for no rational reason other than a clash of stupidity and greed. Turtles 4 going for like $70 when it was so little compared a couple years ago or the mentioned Zelda and Mario printed into the millions.
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by Sarge Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:58 pm

I was extremely fortunate to snag most of the games I wanted years ago. There's certainly some I'd love to have, but emulation is a salve for that wound, and there's always the hunt!

Just not on eBay. ;)
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by ExedExes Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:18 pm

Tanooki wrote:I don't think anyone is arguing an honest rarity. The problem is the common 500k-1M printed games going for stupid prices for no rational reason other than a clash of stupidity and greed. Turtles 4 going for like $70 when it was so little compared a couple years ago or the mentioned Zelda and Mario printed into the millions.

Casper though of all games. That's just greed. What's next, Addams Family? :lol:

I've been doing SO good finding reasonably priced SNES stuff at my local flea markets and even the game store. It pays to research prices. eBay isn't as good as it used to be.
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by Betagam7 Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:30 pm

Sarge wrote:Yes indeedy! Anyone got a cheap copy of Panzer Dragoon Saga and Little Samson they want to let go for... say $50 each? That seems pretty reasonable. ;)


The point being made is that PDS had a print run of somewhere between 3000 to 15'000 copies (being generous).

Zelda 3 in comparison sold 4.6 million copies!

PDS will never be ported to any other console. The code has been lost.

Zelda 3 has been ported to almost every Nintendo console made over the last 15 years.

Zelda 3 should not be selling for the same price as PDS...ever.

Nobody begrudges paying high prices for rare games. But when a game has already been owned by everyone in the universe it should be selling for over a hundred dollars just because of someone's OMG R@RE NINTENDO! millennial crap.


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Betagam7 wrote:It's a cycle of idiocy.

Well, you are welcome to sell me your games for less than going rate :lol:


Among collectors with similar passions, this attitude is not as comically rare as you might think.
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by Gunstar Green Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:49 pm

Betagam7 wrote:Among collectors with similar passions, this attitude is not as comically rare as you might think.


This is true if I'm selling directly to other collectors but if it goes to the wild west that is eBay then I'm getting as much as possible.
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by Betagam7 Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:26 am

I think we must also look at the problem of extremely wealthy collectors basically throwing money at things. The whole boom in collecting "complete sets", "game rooms" and "Man-caves" has driven up prices exponentially. The type of person who has the money to build a game room and fill it with a complete boxed SNES collection obviously doesn't share the frustration of those of us who are simply adults on moderate income hoping to rekindle a lost piece of our formative years.

Since there is a high probability that at least a few people on here have the exact room I've just described then I should probably hold my tongue on this. :lol:
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by benderx Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:22 am

There are some collectors who seem to have a habit of hoarding the market. Nintendoage has been shady this year, cause of a dude had a couple of sealed of Stadium Events for sale on ebay. Its like I got to have issue #1 Spiderman in pristine condition to display in a vault or shelf or picture frame cause its worth a lot of money in the future. People forget to play and enjoy the games instead of just leaving it on shelf to collect dust. Sellers who sell the games sometimes don't clean the cartridges, but want to make big money. I guess some retro game stores are acting sort of like gamestop mannerisms. Some people are weird to collect every game ever made, but don't even play the sports/barbie games on their shelves. Its best to go with everdrive cartridge. "Super mario Bros. approximately three decades at over 40 million units", Let it be a free game. Most of these are being added to Nintendo Virtual console to Playstation store at a lower cost. Some companies are doing HD remaster versions now. Classic game cartridges may become faulty or lost. Classic games don't work well with HD tvs.

Probably the next consoles will be discs-less like Roku media browser. The only problem we have is we need fiber internet speeds now than later. Playstation 5 may be disc-less, bluray movies only, hard drive included. Nintendo is strange with consoles Green means good red means bad Nes, Snes, Virtual boy, nintendo 64, gamecube, wii, wiiU, NX.

NX maybe Roku or they may have SD flash cartridge maybe half or same size as the n64 cartridge.
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by Betagam7 Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:48 am

I can understand complete system collecting to a point, as in when there is a limited amount of games, a genuine desire to explore the library or the mission is something akin to taking on the role of a historian for that system.

Case in point: I'm currently collecting for the Timetop Gameking. Part of the fun is that nobody knows for sure what a complete collection looks like. Many of the details on it's muticarts are still unknown. It's been an interesting time because every new game is a genuine mystery to me. An ebayer who has been on the same mission as me just sent me a googledrive spreadsheet of his own incomplete research. It's a fun piece of detective work and I genuinelly enjoy seeing what the ultra-low spec system can do next.

Collecting all of the sports games for the SNES, never to play them and just to have that perfectly aligned shelf of big grey carts though....I struggle to understand it. Isn't that what wallpaper was invented for? Heaven help these guys if they ever move house/city/country!

The least I'd do in that case was make one of those backloggery style thrones :P
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by ExedExes Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:55 am

Gunstar Green wrote:This is true if I'm selling directly to other collectors but if it goes to the wild west that is eBay then I'm getting as much as possible.

More often than not, you will, especially for SNES. But if I have a local option as well as people that will charge a fair price for games, I'd rather support them locally. It's unfortunate that not everyone does, and that's why eBay remains popular and prices remain ridiculously inflated. I also agree with the "OMG NINTENDO!" sentiment, lots of companies seem to have price premiums too.
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by Sarge Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:38 am

Betagam7 wrote:
Sarge wrote:Yes indeedy! Anyone got a cheap copy of Panzer Dragoon Saga and Little Samson they want to let go for... say $50 each? That seems pretty reasonable. ;)


The point being made is that PDS had a print run of somewhere between 3000 to 15'000 copies (being generous).

Zelda 3 in comparison sold 4.6 million copies!

PDS will never be ported to any other console. The code has been lost.

Zelda 3 has been ported to almost every Nintendo console made over the last 15 years.

Zelda 3 should not be selling for the same price as PDS...ever.

Nobody begrudges paying high prices for rare games. But when a game has already been owned by everyone in the universe it should be selling for over a hundred dollars just because of someone's OMG R@RE NINTENDO! millennial crap.

To be fair, it looks like cart-only sells for around $30 on average. Certainly not optimal, but I would expect something like that for a very popular Nintendo game.

Also, the ones that sell for over $100 are complete copies. And the thing with complete copies on Nintendo systems is that most folks threw out the box, manual, and inserts. Just part of collecting for a Nintendo system. Finding complete copies is far less common, despite that 4.6 million in sales.

Of course, I'm not advocating that Zelda 3 sell for the same price as PDS, but it's not right now, and it likely never will.

As far as OMG NINTENDO, that's been a thing for a long, long time. I don't even think it's a millennial issue... even if I blame them for all of society's ills. ;) (I kid, I kid.)
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