BoneSnapDeez wrote:samsonlonghair wrote:I recall a Tengen cartridge with Afterburner. I wonder if Sega made any money from that, or if Tengen was just ripping everybody off.
I don't know much about Tengen, but from what I can tell they published ports of Sega, Midway, and Namco arcade games for the NES.
Unlike other unlicensed crap, these were legit good games. A few years ago I read up on the legal issues Nintendo had with Tengen, but I can't recall it all at this moment. Sega and Commodore didn't seem to mind Tengen games on their platforms.
The Tengen-published Sega games are After Burner, Alien Syndrome, Fantasy Zone, and Shinobi.
Tengen, the parent company was Atari. Atari/Midway released their own games, Sega, and Namco is right. While they were unlicensed, not everything was, as you said they're legit good games, and for a time they had a license too (see PacMan, Gauntlet, and RBI Baseball for example.) Atari(Tengen) were pissed at the fees and costs involved of having Nintendo make their own carts. The legal issues with Nintendo were two fold. One was Nintendo being pissed off they took their 10NES chip and reverse engineered it, and in a legal fashion not using stolen tech data and made a legit bypass. That's when they started making games in mass in those black carts which is when Sega and the others jumped on board with them. The other would be them getting some legals rights to Tetris, Nintendo getting other ones, and Nintendo kicking their ass in court for selling the superior Tetris title to their own game and wanting them out of the picture.
If anyone wants a nice taste of the story from both sides of it, find a used copy or a kindle edition of David Sheff's Game Over which covers the legal rumblings of Tengen and Nintendo.
OH and no I think a Nintendo phone would be a horrible idea. Sony who has far better brand recognition than they do these days tried it twice so far with their Sony Ericcson phone division and that went pretty much nowhere. I doubt mushrooms and triforce pieces would fare much better.