Been messing some more and found that its not the cable. Its just the saturn. Up to now I have tried it with the A+B method, I have tried the 0014 and 0019 bridges but nothing will work. I guess its just these 64 pin Saturn's

However I am able to do the swap trick right first time So i may just use that to play and keep an eye out for a 32 Pin.
Thanks for the help everyone